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[QOTSA420]

The dude is really good and without a doubt deserves at least a title elmintator bout with maybe Cain. It is not easy amassing 5 concetutive wins inside the Octagon. But I just don't like the way he carries his hands, and does that lazy Chuck Liddell jab to the body. These are basic holes he could very easily cover up in his next fight, but they have also been there since day one. It was also a forgone conclusion that he would knock Gabe out on Saturday so long as he kept the fight on his feet. But scoring a KO over Gonzaga has not really been that hard of a task within in the last few years. I am not trying to down play the man's success, but I am going to keep these things in mind next time I pick a winner for his next fight. I see him getting lit up by Mir or Cain on the feet, while Lesnar or Carwin maul him on the ground. I know a lot of people are high on the guy, and I myself actually enjoy him as a fighter, but is he really going to make a big splash?

[Sakara=Excitement]

Yes.

[MickeyKnox]

I think JDS would knock the fuck out of Mir on the feet, which I would love to see, and Cain too. I would like to see a standup war between him and Carwin though.

We still have yet to see what the hell he can do on the ground, no thanks to Gonzaga.

It would be a great story if JDS avenged Big Nogs two finishing losses.

[RealFighter]

WoW serious man you kidding right Carwin too slow and be honest sloppy. Mir he would keep it standing and loose Cain will be the real test for who is number 2 to Brock in the U.F.C even though the winner between Mir and Carwin get a shot to get mauled by Lesnar,but I do see a need for him to be tested IMO he's a bad match up for Mir and Carwin.

[Caine2878]

Originally Posted by QOTSA420

The dude is really good and without a doubt deserves at least a title elmintator bout with maybe Cain. It is not easy amassing 5 concetutive wins inside the Octagon. But I just don't like the way he carries his hands, and does that lazy Chuck Liddell jab to the body. These are basic holes he could very easily cover up in his next fight, but they have also been there since day one. It was also a forgone conclusion that he would knock Gabe out on Saturday so long as he kept the fight on his feet. But scoring a KO over Gonzaga has not really been that hard of a task within in the last few years. I am not trying to down play the man's success, but I am going to keep these things in mind next time I pick a winner for his next fight. I see him getting lit up by Mir or Cain on the feet, while Lesnar or Carwin maul him on the ground. I know a lot of people are high on the guy, and I myself actually enjoy him as a fighter, but is he really going to make a big splash?

You really see Cain trying to stand and bang with JDS? I don't see that at all. I don't even think Mir wants to stand and bang with him. JDS hands are extremely heavy and IMO anyone trying to score a win on him needs to take the fight to the ground and try their luck there. If the winner of Carwin/Mir comes out without too much damage and go on to face brock, I would like to see JDS face Cain. If Cain goes on to face Brock I hope JDS gets the winner of Mir/Carwin.

[The8thPlague]

I have Not been sold on Junior Dos Santos until Tonight.

His scramble was quick, his punches are lightning fast.
He's a slimmer version of Cain Velasquez, who (after KOing Nogueria) I've finally started to jump onto the Bandwagon of.

[NAL987]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

Yes.

I second that.

Though yes many people thought he would knock out Gonzaga and say they expected it, but then again if Gonzaga submitted him, people would most likely be saying the same thing about that.. As for Gonzaga not having a chin, I really only remember him getting KOd by Carwin and now Dos Santos.. which could possibly be the 2 hardest hitters in the UFC.

As for me being sold on any fighter, I don't really look at it that way, I just see him being in the mix now as a top contender and being 2 fights away from a title shot, and even if he did fight Cain, Carwin, or Mir and LOSE, I believe he'd win his next couple fights and be right at the top again.

Might I add that I always thought Gonzaga looked huge compared to other heavyweights, and tonight JDS looked bigger than him and thats scary...

[Kimbo> Rampage]

Originally Posted by The8thPlague

He's a slimmer version of Cain Velasquez, who (after KOing Nogueria) I've finally started to jump onto the Bandwagon of.

How? His striking is better than Cain's, Cain is an great wrestler who is a fast learner with the other aspects of MMA. We've seen Cain's striking improve a lot since his time in the ufc. He doesnt have the speed or power of JDS. You can't say that yet. JDS is also 2+ inches taller

When the discussions of JDS vs mir, carwin, cain, etc. they would all be at a disadvantage standing. They all hit hard and keep improving but they do not have the eplosiveness of JDS (cain maybe). The question is how he would defend takedowns from Cain or Carwin. That is still to be anwsered. I Know that carwin has Great power and has the impressive KO record, but im not sure how he would do against JDS standing. He is a lot slower and less skilled. I know that with one punch from carwin JDS could be done, but it is more likely that JDS would connect a couple of times on carwin and end it.

[drake_411]

Not completely sold, I'd like to see him fight Valesquez then maybe even have a title shot if he wins.

[Goremire]

I think the really cool thing about dos Santos is the fact that he's a bonafide slugger who just goes in there to throw bombs at his opponent and ususally ends up knocking him out. I mean yeah, he trains in BJJ with Nogueira and Maia and is supposedly very talented on the ground, but that's irrelevent. He's a gunslinger who has finished everybody in front of him so far in the Octagon, and against progressivley tougher competition. He's 5-0 and is deservedly being talked about in the same breath as guys like Velasquez, Carwin and Mir.

Plus he's entertaining as hell, and in a division dominated by grapplers there's something indisputedly badass about a 6'3 Brazilian kickboxing champion blasting guys out with his fists and making it look easy.

But there is one nagging doubt I have about him, and that's the fact that at no time in the 20 odd minutes he's spent so far in the Octagon has he been flat on his back with a dominant wrestler grinding him with brutal ground'n'pound. Stylistically, that fight hasn't occurred yet, and as a result takedown defence, scrambles and submissions are all sides of dos Santos' game that we haven't really seen.

I can see the potential for a guy like Velasquez to give him problems. Velasquez is a pretty good kickboxer himself, and after dealing to Nog he might be confident enough to strike with Junior. He also showed against Nog that he's fully committing to punches, and that when he does he can hit pretty fucking hard. Not to mention Cain has vicious kicks, so he's a genuine threat while the fight is standing.

But Cain aslo showed against Kongo that if he gets rocked his natural instinct is to explode with a takedown. And I wouldn't be surpised if Cain was more than capable of taking dos Santos down based on what I've seen of him so far. All Cain needs to do is take dos Santos down early in each round and keep him there.

He can keep him down by working a frenetic pace, throwing lots of punches and controlling Junior's position and posture. Avoid submissions, rinse wash repeat, and Cain could easily win a decision. We've seen this fight a thousand times before, with a thousand different aggressive American wrestlers and a thousand different strikers.

Dos Santos' counter strategy based on his striking/BJJ skillset is also an old, well known one. Defend the takedown and throw bombs. If you get taken down, try to submit him off your back. Or work a sweep and try and get back to your feet.

Cain is more than capable of implementing his gameplan. He proved that conclusively against Cheick Kongo. We've yet to see if dos Santos is capable of implementing his.