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[MichaelK]

Furthermore, to insinuate that I said, "Fedor hasn't faced anyone," is taking what I said completely out of context. As a whole, George's recent competition has been at a higher level than Fedor's. Guess what that is? Fact.

[GangGreenWarrior]

And where did the walking tree with with 1 MMA fight and likely 0 knowledge of submissions rank?

[Sakara=Excitement]

Here's what you said...

Originally Posted by MichaelK

Snakebite: True, but while GSP has been fighting Alves, Fitch, and Penn, Fedor has been fighting a middleweight, a 12 foot tall Korean, and Andrei Arlovski. Throw Tim in there as well. Even an unproven Rodgers. Georges' competition is of a higher level.

Sure makes it seem like Fedor hasn't fought anyone. Like I proved he's faced 4 top ten HW's in his last 4 fights. You didn't mention that.

Originally Posted by GangGreenWarrior

And where did the walking tree with with 1 MMA fight and likely 0 knowledge of submissions rank?

About what Brock was ranked. And he was 9-2 in K-1 when they fought so it's not like they said, hey you tall guy, come fight.

Originally Posted by macewen

smart - yes....Fan friendly - Not so much

Lemme just correct this statement a bit

smart - yes.... UFC fan friendly - not so much, educated MMA fan friendly - of course

Originally Posted by jonbyarmbar

"I've never seen a fighter who can completely dominate a fighter, take the least amount of damage a fighter can, win every single round, try to rip a guy's arm off and still be called boring. How about this, we add alligators and moats, throw some guns hanging from a wire and they have to use a ladder to get to it."

This is another ridiculous MMA snob argument.

You act like because I don't want to watch a guy lay there for five rounds I am some kind of blood thirsty lunatic who is only happy when two guys are standing pounding each others heads in. Sorry, no. It isn't like that.

Of course Georges dominated Hardy. Find me one person who would have bet against GSP. This whole 'game plan' of laying on top of a guy and winning rounds up to a decision is TIRED. If those are the kind of fights you like to watch, awesome. More power to you, man. I like to see two guys who show up to fight an MMA fight. All GSP did was demonstrate he can wrestle and he has a DECENT top game. I say DECENT because his G'n'P was Non-Existant, and he had two subs locked and COULDN'T finish. I can't think of any wrestler worth his salt who wouldn't at least try for some G'n'P, and I can't think of any decent jits guy who would have subs given to him like that and not be able to finish. GSP had options in the sub position, even if he couldn't crank it to a tap, he could've set up another, it's not like Hardy was going anywhere.

sigh... another fool who thinks that was lay n pray.... when did we start taking refugees from Sherdog?

[optimusjoel]

I bet if Gsp wasn't handsome he would not have nearly as many defenders.

[goodtimes]

Originally Posted by Dr. MMA

Well the fans who tweeted it may not understand that this is MIXED martial arts which means fights do go to the ground. Plus if the fans wanted a stand-up fight, they must have been cheering for Hardy because you knew GSP's strategy was to put Hardy on his back. It was Hardy's job to implement his gameplan, not GSP's to sway away from his to please those twitter-posting fans.

I know what your saying, but theres a difference between fighting on the ground and just trying to control the guy. Other then a few quality submissions attempts, GSP did hardly any damage. No GnP. He just went for safe sub attempts over and over, and hardly tried to pass. Sure it was dominant, and some people probably enjoyed it because they got to see GSP fight, but it was pretty lackluster. I realize that Hardy being totally overmatched didn't help it any, but it feels like every fight GSP loses another facet of his game that made him so exciting when he first burst onto the scene and has turned into a double leg/side control machine.

[cnlclink]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

When he fought Tim, Tim was ranked Top 3...FACT

When he fought Andrei, Andrei was ranked Top 3...FACT

When he fought Brett, Brett was Top 10...FACT

When he faces Werdum, Werdum is ranked top 10...FACT

So 4 top 10 HW's in a row and some how Fedor isn't facing anybody? That is the dumbest thing I've heard yet. Go to another forum board that bashes Fedor without facts.

Sherdog Official Mixed Martial Arts Rankings - HW rankings immediately after Fedor fought Tim, with Tim still being ranked in the Top 3

Sherdog Official Mixed Martial Arts Rankings - HW rankings from 2008 after he fought Tim and before he fought AA

Sherdog Official Mixed Martial Arts Rankings - HW rankings from this month before facing Top 10 Werdum. Also shows Brett in the Top 10

Sakara you are the man and I really enjoy your posts but I have to be pointing this out and question the links that you have given. Please do not think of it as me ripping you.

When Fedor fought AA, sure AA was coming off 5 wins in a row, yes impressive. He beat Werdum the last top of the pile fighter before fighting Jake O'Brien, Ben Rothwell and Roy Nelson. I am not sure if those guys were really enough to put him into the top 3 HW rankings.
Andrei Arlovski - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When Fedor fought Timmay he was 1-2 in his last 3. Lost to Couture, beat Vera in a pretty close match and lost to Minotauro. I have a hard time putting him in the top 5 let alone top 3. Granted he was doing well against Nog but still lost. (How did Timmay get a title shot for the WAMMA belt coming off a loss?)
Tim Sylvia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I am certainly not trying to bash Fedor, I think he is pretty damn good fighter but I have to wonder if the guys he's been facing lately haven't had their rankings a little puffed up.

So Sakara I am going to rep you of course when I am able to again but I just had to question those links a little bit.

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by cnlclink

Sakara you are the man and I really enjoy your posts but I have to be pointing this out and question the links that you have given. Please do not think of it as me ripping you.

When Fedor fought AA, sure AA was coming off 5 wins in a row, yes impressive. He beat Werdum the last top of the pile fighter before fighting Jake O'Brien, Ben Rothwell and Roy Nelson. I am not sure if those guys were really enough to put him into the top 3 HW rankings.
Andrei Arlovski - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When Fedor fought Timmay he was 1-2 in his last 3. Lost to Couture, beat Vera in a pretty close match and lost to Minotauro. I have a hard time putting him in the top 5 let alone top 3. Granted he was doing well against Nog but still lost. (How did Timmay get a title shot for the WAMMA belt coming off a loss?)
Tim Sylvia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I am certainly not trying to bash Fedor, I think he is pretty damn good fighter but I have to wonder if the guys he's been facing lately haven't had their rankings a little puffed up.

So Sakara I am going to rep you of course when I am able to again but I just had to question those links a little bit.

Not sure how you can question those links. It's Sherdog's rankings which are used pretty widely through out the MMA community. You don't stay #1 in the HW rankings by not fighting top 10-15 guys. If so then Overeem would be top 3. Those rankings are legit. You're questioning me but the rankings are not made up. I didn't start a website and give my own rankings. Rankings are indeed subjective but Tim was top 5 through out the MMA community and AA was top 3, that's just how it was.

[U shut ur FACE]

Seriously, who cares about Fedor right now lol, I was simply pointing out that GSP's fight was impressive even though he did'int finish it (at least for me)... I really wasn't commenting on Fedor's legacy or GSP's P4P status I just think that GSP is a talented and disciplined fighter that really can still grow a lot in the sport; so let's see what happens.

[MetallicKnight3X]

man I jus watched that video and what does he do after the fight?? he goes straight back into his room and tries to figure out why he didnt break his arm.. haha I love it!! GSP showed pured domination in this fight. I jus hope one day as a huge st pierre fan that i am.. i hope he can put up a stellar stand up performance.. ive seen him do it.. Fitch, and Hughes 2 but i want to see him start adding some ko's to his resume.

[Ramma]

I thought it was a good fight personally. Pure domination... but also pure entertainment