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[IamLMNOP]

I was glad the fight wasn't stopped as soon has Mir buckled, because he got a leg to hold on to. But right after that he started eating a ton of unanswered shots before Carwin even got on is back. Fight was stopped WAY too late IMO

[GangGreenWarrior]

Maybe Dan thought that Mir laying face down limp with his arm by his side was some sort of BJJ defense?

[Rumble]

I said the same thing to my friends. I told them that if Carwin was fighting anyone else the would have stopped the fight way sooner. Sometimes, when I see late stoppages like that it makes me question if the UFC really wants one particular fighter to win for whatever reasons the UFC heads have. Stoppage was definitely a little late.

[Dr. MMA]

Originally Posted by Rumble

I said the same thing to my friends. I told them that if Carwin was fighting anyone else the would have stopped the fight way sooner. Sometimes, when I see late stoppages like that it makes me question if the UFC really wants one particular fighter to win for whatever reasons the UFC heads have. Stoppage was definitely a little late.

UFC doesn't choose the referees, the athletic commission does.

[Pasha K]

Originally Posted by Rumble

Stoppage was definitely a little late.

It was like 5 seconds late, that is too much actually.

[Rumble]

Originally Posted by Dr. MMA

UFC doesn't choose the referees, the athletic commission does.

Sorry, maybe I should have specified a little more. I wasn't talking about the refs. I understand that the athletic commision picks the refs. I'm saying that sometimes it seems like certain fighters (preferably ones that are favored to win) get more of a chance to recover. I felt that this fight was one of those instances.

To further specify, I know Carwin had jsut as good of a chance to win as Mir did. Hell..... I wanted Carwin to win the fight, but to me it appeared that Mir was favored to win the fight.

[Pasha K]

Of course UFC sometimes want X fighter to win.
Usually fighters that have a lot of popularity: Kimbo, Lidell, Couture, GSP, BJ Penn etc.
For example I think they want Lesnar to retain the championship, because Lesnar talks too much, he does antics, he is popular. Carwin is humble, he is a great fighter but without too much personality.

[Dr. MMA]

Originally Posted by Rumble

Sorry, maybe I should have specified a little more. I wasn't talking about the refs. I understand that the athletic commision picks the refs. I'm saying that sometimes it seems like certain fighters (preferably ones that are favored to win) get more of a chance to recover. I felt that this fight was one of those instances.

To further specify, I know Carwin had jsut as good of a chance to win as Mir did. Hell..... I wanted Carwin to win the fight, but to me it appeared that Mir was favored to win the fight.

I agree that the referees allow certain fighters to continue longer. The same has been said for Big Nog. He pretty much has to go limp before the ref steps in. John McCarthy has also said that he factors in the fighter's previous ability to recover into his decisions. I am surprised that Mirgliotta did let Mir try to recover though because Mir isn't one of those fighters who recovers fast. Plus, in this situation he was flat on his stomach and taking punches. I don't care what referee you are, you know that he's not coming back from that position, he looked dead.

A lot of people picked Mir to win but I expected Carwin to beat him pretty soundly and I expected a first round KO. I feel people have overrated Mir's skills a little too much. The two things that haven't improved for Mir is his takedown defense and also his ability to take a punch. Carwin can exploit both. I'm not saying he has a weak chin but I'm talking about what he does when he gets hit. He doesn't try to switch positions right away instead he's stagnant. This is not the first time it has happened.

[Rumble]

Originally Posted by Dr. MMA

I agree that the referees allow certain fighters to continue longer. The same has been said for Big Nog. He pretty much has to go limp before the ref steps in. John McCarthy has also said that he factors in the fighter's previous ability to recover into his decisions. I am surprised that Mirgliotta did let Mir try to recover though because Mir isn't one of those fighters who recovers fast. Plus, in this situation he was flat on his stomach and taking punches. I don't care what referee you are, you know that he's not coming back from that position, he looked dead.

A lot of people picked Mir to win but I expected Carwin to beat him pretty soundly and I expected a first round KO. I feel people have overrated Mir's skills a little too much. The two things that haven't improved for Mir is his takedown defense and also his ability to take a punch. Carwin can exploit both. I'm not saying he has a weak chin but I'm talking about what he does when he gets hit. He doesn't try to switch positions right away instead he's stagnant. This is not the first time it has happened.

I completely agree. I kept telling my friends that Carwin just needs to connect once and the fight is over. Carwin is a bad match up for Mir for the exact reasons you mentioned. But I understand the direction the UFC was trying to go with him by trying to build up a grudge match/trilogy between him and Lesnar. Unfortunately for him Carwin put a halt to that for the time being

[The Sensational One]

Originally Posted by Pashak

Its not that Dan is a Mir fan, its just that he is the worst referee in the entire universe.
I think that even Mazagatti is a genious compared to that bald idiot.

Lol yeah, that was a terrible late stoppage. What, there was, 4-5 blows after Mir got stretched out and really wasn't defending himself cause he was out.