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[steve_44]

Originally Posted by Xanatos

I think BJ's success has less to do with age, and more to do with conditioning. He was always good, but there was a time he tried coasting on talent and came out with poor conditioning into fights and paid for it. Ever since he went back to Lightweight he really starting taking his training camps seriously and it shows. But I do agree that some fighters get better as they get older, and i think that's a maturity thing.

Originally Posted by TheKidInside

ooh but you just proved his point. BJ was 7young and inexperienced and didn't understand that you have to train your ass off to hang with the top dogs. He got older and wiser and realized that you have to bust your ass to get to the top and then work 10 x hard to stay there.

Roy needs an ass whupping because he's cocky and annoying and really is not that good, he lost to decent guys and would get destroyed by Cain, Shane, Brock, JDS, Big Nog, MIR EVEN, etc

exactly what i ment, thanks.

Originally Posted by CowboyFromHell

Mostly what I get out of the Roy Nelson haters is that they just wanna find ways not to like him. People may not realize he also went three rounds with a strong man in Monson as well. People will keep on talking until he shows he can take out one of these big name guys in the UFC and then everyone will drop on the wagon.

thats generally how it works u take out a big name then you have proved yourself. You could beat on 1000 people and win every fight but it dosent mean anything if they were all 5 yr olds.


Ive said before ill eat my words if big country beats mir or jds but imo big country is a big joke as far as people talking title contention

[Lint the Destroyer]

Originally Posted by steve_44

You could beat on 1000 people and win every fight but it dosent mean anything if they were all 5 yr olds.

What if it was 1000-on-one? That would still be pretty impressive in my book.

[KevoOnTheRadio]

Originally Posted by Lint the Destroyer

What if it was 1000-on-one? That would still be pretty impressive in my book.

Fighting 1,000 five year olds at once? Can you kick a downed opponent? Wanna know the rules first...

[Lint the Destroyer]

Zombie Apocalypse rules.

[TheKidInside]

Originally Posted by Lint the Destroyer

Zombie Apocalypse rules.

yeah my gaitling gun > 1,000 zombies.

[Kimbo> Rampage]

Roy really didnt need to go onto TUF and i dont know anybody who didnt favor him when the season started, he was definitely the most skilled and experienced. But it was smart on his part to get a guaranteed 6 figure, 6 fight contract with the UFC, gain a larger fan base, and becoming a TUF winner always takes their careers to next level and open new doors for themselves. Roy was very successful in his mma career and did very well in the IFL. Dont get me wrong its not that i dont think he is the real deal but i just dont think he can beat the top 4-5 hw's in the ufc. He is in the top 5 or close to the top 5 for ufc HWs but some people are overrating him. What will he do with a wrestler like cain or carwin that he cannot take down and is forced to strike with. Carwin would ko him and cain has superior and much faster striking. Dont know if he could get JDS down and do his thing but he would get KO'ed if he stood with him. I really hope that fight happens, but if not i would love to see him fight Mir or GG. they both have a good ground game and could strike well with him. Mir got killed by lesnar and carwin, GG got got ko'ed by carwin and JDS. He isnt top5 ufc hw, but he still is top 10. dont sleep on him. He is excellent on the ground and roy would have trouble with him, JDS is a much better striker and Carwin hits a lot harder than roy, so just thinking roy would knock out GG is a mistake. Please no Roy vs. rothwell, we dont want to see that shit again.

People keep forgetting his fight right b4 he went on tuf.

YouTube - Andrei Arlovski Knocks Out Roy Nelson