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[rivethead]

If Kenny is smart, he'll go to the WEC.

If dana was half the business man people claim he is, he'd apply pressure for that to happen.

I don't see Kenny ever winning the LW belt from Penn, I see him potentially winning it [I don't see it as a lock as so many other's do] if Penn does indeed vacate, but that's weak for two reasons: A) he won't be looked at as the best LW in the UFC as long as Penn is active at any weight, and B) there's nothing to prevent BJ from dropping back down and taking it again; which he's capricious enough to do if things don't go smoothly for him at WW.

If he goes to the WEC, he'll be a big fish in a little pond, and he'll bring some interest to a struggling org. I'm confident Zuffa will compensate him and he'll have the opportunity to look as dominant as Penn does in the UFC.

rh

[TBEAR]

Originally Posted by rivethead

If Kenny is smart, he'll go to the WEC.

If dana was half the business man people claim he is, he'd apply pressure for that to happen.

I don't see Kenny ever winning the LW belt from Penn, I see him potentially winning it [I don't see it as a lock as so many other's do] if Penn does indeed vacate, but that's weak for two reasons: A) he won't be looked at as the best LW in the UFC as long as Penn is active at any weight, and B) there's nothing to prevent BJ from dropping back down and taking it again; which he's capricious enough to do if things don't go smoothly for him at WW.

If he goes to the WEC, he'll be a big fish in a little pond, and he'll bring some interest to a struggling org. I'm confident Zuffa will compensate him and he'll have the opportunity to look as dominant as Penn does in the UFC.

rh

Why?

Is the big fish in the little pond arguement really your thoughts?

I mean why not be a big fish in a big pond> ( I see that he may not beat BJ, but if he does he will in a few words "shock the MMA world")

BJ can be beat, there is always a chance. Ken flo is a star now and makes more money than he would in the WEC. I see where you said ZUFFA should compensate him but that is a should....so I say he stays and TRIES to take BJ, cementing a bigger legacy (if he takes out BJ) has a top LW...just my 2 cents

[lwbrewer]

TBEAR it's all up to what Zaffa wants. Kenny got a level head on his shoulders he wouldn't go if the $$$$ wasn't there. One way to look at it if he did go and won the title he could come back for title verses title then more people would pay to see Kenny fight BJ again. Faber can carrier WEC [IMO] but he has to beat Aldo, if he fails Kenny going to WEC could be a good move for Zuffa.

[bottlerocks]

Lots of Kenny animosity here. 0% chance against Penn? He has a better shot than anyone else in the division aside from maybe Maynard or Edgar.

Yes, Penn dominated Florian in their bout. But Kenny had the absolute worst gameplan going into that fight layered upon ring rust. He realized his mistakes, got away from his borderline retarded brother and went to someone who could properly prepare him to eventually take the belt.

He still needs a win over at least Frankie or Gray before getting back in title contention, but I would pay to watch him fight Penn again.

Moral of the story: I do not want to see him in the WEC and I doubt most MMA fans would either.

[lwbrewer]

You do have to watch being good it can be a double edged sword. Too good for the comp but not good enough to win the belt. Frank Trigg kind of fell into that boat years ago. Kenny does a lot of good PR work so thats a big plus for him to be kept around, but if he can beat all of the comp but BJ then what do you do with him? Kenny's getting himself into a bad spot beating Gomi, and if he beats Maynard, Franky, and who ever else is at the top. Then what do you do with him specially if he loses to BJ again. Plus they'd never let him go to SF for doing good

[KnowledgeKnown]

Did anyone else watch the Florian Gomi fight? Honestly did anyone watching that fight think to themselves; "wow, these guys look like they could challenge Penn." My wife actually asked why Florian was slapping Gomi. I said "that's his jab".

I would actually say what I said before the first fight. Florian has 0% chance of beating Penn. My prediction of the fight was right on. Penn is better at everything. Everything. His striking, his BJJ, his takedowns, and TD defense. And he's stronger and faster. So what exactly does Florian have to offer Penn in a rematch?

How may I ask can anyone say Florian could beat BJ Penn. Really. Is he bringing a sledge hammer into the cage?

By the way, I dig Kenny. He's smart and I like his skills. He's a poor man's BJ Penn. Hence why he can't beat him.

Hyundai may have made a car that sort of looks like a Mercedes, and runs well and blah blah, and they can advertise that people are mistaking it for a Benz, but guess what...it's not a Benz.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by TBEAR

Why?

Is the big fish in the little pond arguement really your thoughts?

I mean why not be a big fish in a big pond> ( I see that he may not beat BJ, but if he does he will in a few words "shock the MMA world")

BJ can be beat, there is always a chance. Ken flo is a star now and makes more money than he would in the WEC. I see where you said ZUFFA should compensate him but that is a should....so I say he stays and TRIES to take BJ, cementing a bigger legacy (if he takes out BJ) has a top LW...just my 2 cents

As long as Penn is in the LW division, Florian can only be second best. If he does manage to "shock the world" it will only last until the rematch.

He wouldn't necessarily take a pay cut to go to the WEC, either. I get very tired of armchair accountants who make assumptions without any knowledge of how Zuffa does business. I can't say for sure that he'd get a raise, but I highly doubt he'd take a pay cut.

rh

[ALittleDirtyBoxing]

I definitely think Florian deserves another match with Penn before you say he CAN'T beat him. Penn didn't finish Florian til the 4th. I saw someone early in this thread say Penn could have finished him earlier if he had wanted to. That's Bullshit IMO because what fighter doesn't constantly want to finish their opponent? Especially BJ Penn. Unless he just had some serious beef with a fighter and just plain hated the guy. Which wasn't the case with Florian. Big UFC rivalries have always been given more than one freaking match, and though it hasn't been that long since their first match-up, I think Florian is WORLDS ahead of where he was then. As for Sherk, I truly believe Florian would finish him. Back when he fought Sherk the first time there was a general demeanor about Florian that isn't there now. Now he's A LOT more confident, and rightfully so. A MUCH MUCH better fighter than he was then. Maybe even a complete different fighter than he was then, other than he's always been dangerous with cutting elbows.

As well as those 2 re-matches, I also would like to see him and Sanchez go at it again. Though, that may only be to appease my fanboydom! After all there would be little to gain for Florian, and Sanchez is evidently moving back up to WW (SO stupid). I actually think Florian would beat Sanchez. Maybe not finish him, but beat him. I say this mainly out of consideration of common opponents and the handling there-of.