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Old 04-13-2010, 10:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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His actions were very juvenile and far from professional. It just goes to show that there are a bunch of clueless people working behind the scenes that have no business in MMA. The sport is still young, but these kinks better get fixed before shit gets out of hand. Hopefully the commissions will start to examine things and clean this mess up. I am still baffled about the 50-45 descision. I know judges don't have big ass HD tvs and biased commentators trying to subliminally sell their favorite fighter(something often overlooked by fans), but shit 50-45?
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Bottom line, fight metric proves the same thing. BJ outpointed him.
I read the fight metrics just on punching yes BJ did out point him, but there are other aspects to it, kicks takedowns, control. I think most of us agree it wasn't a 50-45 fight. So that just shows he's a biased judge, and would of been much better if he would of kept his mouth shut
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I read the fight metrics just on punching yes BJ did out point him, but there are other aspects to it, kicks takedowns, control. I think most of us agree it wasn't a 50-45 fight. So that just shows he's a biased judge, and would of been much better if he would of kept his mouth shut
fight metrics should be used as a point of interest, not a tool in deciding fights. The striking was close, and most of Bj's punches were short powerless jabs. The fight could have gone either way, using Fightmetrics as evidence or proof is irresponsible.
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fight metrics should be used as a point of interest, not a tool in deciding fights. The striking was close, and most of Bj's punches were short powerless jabs. The fight could have gone either way, using Fightmetrics as evidence or proof is irresponsible.
It's diffenitly evidence, but agree it's not deciding proof. I think I also pointed out other varibles for the out come too, and it does list power shots too. My main point was I think it showed it wasn't a 50-45 fight, and the judge rambling on and on with out saying anything important.
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Yeah a 50-45 fight judging is just dumb. It was close, i had BJ winning, but it was close and not a run away like Edgar won all 5 rds, neither did BJ. As for Fight Metric, that should be used as a guiding tool, not concrete proof, but a guiding tool for sure.
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Bottom line, fight metric proves the same thing. BJ outpointed him.
CompuStrike Stats showed a different story, though. Both stats usually show the same result or close to it, but not this time.

I'm a huge B.J. Penn fan, and just about everybody knows that, but the fight I had watched, Edgar outpointed an obvious 'not' 100% Penn. It was a close fight for sure, and could've quite possibly gone either way, but Edgar had one thing in his favor in the eyes of the judges, he made Penn look not so 'great'. To each their own, though.

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It's diffenitly evidence, but agree it's not deciding proof. I think I also pointed out other varibles for the out come too, and it does list power shots too. My main point was I think it showed it wasn't a 50-45 fight, and the judge rambling on and on with out saying anything important.
Oh for sure, it was not a 50-45 fight at all, everybody but Doug Crosby knows that. I just don't like the idea of looking at numbers on a screen and saying, "yep, BJ Penn won that fight"

I would have been happy whether BJ OR Edgar won, I just think Edgar deserved to win the fight more because he put out more of an effort, then when coupled with the close striking, gives him the edge up on the scorecards. Just not 50-45.

But ya, I think we're pretty much in agreement on this, I just think Fightmetric is a cool place to go and look what happened during the fight that we don't really calculate while we're watching.
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