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[rivethead]

Originally Posted by Diegonightmare

I find it sad that you think the brawl was pre-arranged! No offense is intended but that's one of the craziest theories I've ever heard.

I don't think the brawl itself was scripted. I do think the drama was premeditated [i.e., if Jake wins, go and mess with him] whether by Mayhem on his own, or with any of the SF/CBS administrator's blessing. I think it unfolded to the brawl--and probably took it too far--but the whole thing was a little posture-y for me.

Although I'm back to a point where I'm not sleeping, so admittedly, I'm even goofier than I am under normal circumstances...which is considerable, I'll be the first to admit: On a scale of my conspiracy theories, I don't even know if this cracks my top 10.

rh

[Diegonightmare]

Originally Posted by rivethead

I don't think the brawl itself was scripted. I do think the drama was premeditated

Fair enough and it might have been; but that happens all the time, it's not unusual, and that is a VERY different thing from maintaining that the brawl itself was staged. Your post here is quite different from your first one:

Which leads me to think the whole brawl was pre-arranged. If the stand-and-bang crowd was turned off by three long decision fights, give them a bang to know it's time to go home.

That clearly implies that not only the drama but the brawl was set up. I'm glad you clarified, because I think there is no way in hell that the brawl itself was deliberately staged.

I think it's plausible that Mayhem was sent in there to generate drama (though Coker denies it, and I believe him, but an underling might have made the call himself), but there's no way Strikeforce execs thought it was preferable to have a full-blown street brawl on live national broadcast TV and quite possibly piss away your CBS contract just in order to "let the crowd know it's time to go home".

[KnowledgeKnown]

Originally Posted by Diegonightmare

I think it's plausible that Mayhem was sent in there to generate drama (though Coker denies it, and I believe him, but an underling might have made the call himself), but there's no way Strikeforce execs thought it was preferable to have a full-blown street brawl on live national broadcast TV and quite possibly piss away your CBS contract just in order to "let the crowd know it's time to go home".

I'm surprised you believe him. I do not. I've been a part of many amateur MMA events and you can't even get into those small event cages after the fight without permission. Imagine a CBS event. He didn't just walk into that cage, I guarantee it.

Whether Coker "himself" ordered it we'll never know, but i'm amazed when these guys refuse to accept responsibility. Either you have no control over who comes in and out of the cage, or you set this up to hype a future fight.
Either way, it's your fault as the guy running this event. There's no pointing fingers.

See people hate Dana White, but he took responsibility for Anderson Silva's antics in the cage, and that's much further removed than this is to Coker. No one even thought to blame Dana for Silva's dancing, but he came out and said HE'D make it up tp the fans.

NOOOO not Coker. This isn't his fault, he's only running the event.

I'm not saying he knew for sure... but he knew for sure. lol

[Diegonightmare]

Originally Posted by KnowledgeKnown

I'm surprised you believe him ... you can't even get into those small event cages after the fight without permission. Imagine a CBS event. He didn't just walk into that cage, I guarantee it.

Whether Coker "himself" ordered it we'll never know

Agreed, he didn't just walk into the cage. I never maintained that. I'm saying I believe Coker when he says he didn't personally know about it. That being said, yes he's the guy and in charge and unquestionably it's his responsibility - even if Mayhem did "find his way into the cage", it is Coker's responsibility.

[KnowledgeKnown]

by the way super dope sig pic

[Diegonightmare]

Originally Posted by KnowledgeKnown

by the way super dope sig pic

Thank you brotha!

[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by Diegonightmare

Thank you brotha!

Agreed your sig is pretty awesome. Whom do you think is the best hw in the UFC atm?

[JadedX]

^Thread jacker, lol ;-P

Originally Posted by rivethead

Which leads me to think the whole brawl was pre-arranged. If the stand-and-bang crowd was turned off by three long decision fights, give them a bang to know it's time to go home.

I still find it sad, though.

rh

That actually makes perfect sense.

As did I.

[v3xi]

Originally Posted by rivethead

I don't think the brawl itself was scripted. I do think the drama was premeditated [i.e., if Jake wins, go and mess with him] whether by Mayhem on his own, or with any of the SF/CBS administrator's blessing. I think it unfolded to the brawl--and probably took it too far--but the whole thing was a little posture-y for me.

Although I'm back to a point where I'm not sleeping, so admittedly, I'm even goofier than I am under normal circumstances...which is considerable, I'll be the first to admit: On a scale of my conspiracy theories, I don't even know if this cracks my top 10.

rh

The cameraman and the announcer in the ring obviously did not know Mayhem was going to do that. Mayhem is also a huge goofball that does dumb shit like this on a fight to fight basis, I would confidently say that it was not planned at all. Maybe Mayhem knew before the fight that he would do this if Jake OR even Hendo won, and if your security around the cage and you see a big name fighter in your organization trying to get inside are you really going to stop him?

[Sakara=Excitement]

I keep hearing about how Mayhem is a jackass and does shit like this all the time. What has he done besides act like a goof ball from time to time?