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[Daellusx]

Lets think about this for a minute. How old and embedded in american culture are sports like baseball, basketball, football, and hockey? Which of these sports is still trying to become legalized in several states? Which of the above sports has been called human cockfighting and was basically underground until not too long ago? How many times do fights happen in the established sports and the atheletes who participated just get to say sorry and not have any kind of disciplinary action take on them? How many coaches will come out and say that people need to stop being pussies because three of their star players and other team members jumped one person from the opposite team?

It simply amazes me that the lack of discipline shown from THREE CHAMPIONS is merely waved off by Renzo.

[Sakara=Excitement]

Anyone want to know what the sports writers think? Well on Around the Horn (sports show on ESPN) they said that MMA is a joke and that for Gus Johnson to be involved it demoralizes him (Gus) and that MMA is worthless and basically trashed it.

[macewen]

Originally Posted by willpunisher

people still watch hockey?
its been overblown and everyone is pissed cuz mma is still new and lots of people don't like it. the old school people, boxers and those people in NY specially.
i dont think mayhem is the one to say sorry. he got in the cage just like rashad did on rampage and gsp on hughes. mayhem got jumped by all those guys. u look at the video again and there is some big dude standing next to him and kicking him in the head or shoulder 3-4 times.
but than again this is not the first time mayhem has done something like this.. he pulled this shit before in DREAM against Jacare.
my question is.. will everyone involved be punished or suspended somehow?

lol people still watch hockey...are u serious? Its the playoffs right now, and I would go out on a limb, and say that theres millions more people watching the playoffs right now, then there was watching that SF event

[XxChAoS32xX]

Originally Posted by macewen

lol people still watch hockey...are u serious? Its the playoffs right now, and I would go out on a limb, and say that theres millions more people watching the playoffs right now, then there was watching that SF event

Dude, he means that Americans don't watch hockey .

[beau420]

Originally Posted by macewen

lol people still watch hockey...are u serious? Its the playoffs right now, and I would go out on a limb, and say that theres millions more people watching the playoffs right now, then there was watching that SF event

Montreal game tonight will probably be watched by around 3+ million people in Canada alone. But then again, we are both Canadian and hockey takes center stage on our sports channels unlike in a lot of the states.

I am surprised UFC hasn't had an in ring fight.

One of the closest fights I can think of was Ortiz and Shamrock. I will let Wikipedia explain it:

Shamrock's Lion's Den has engaged in a feud with former UFC Light Heavyweight champion, Tito Ortiz. The feud began to build when Ortiz, with his fingers, acted like he was shooting at the Lion's Den corner and coach Ken Shamrock after his win over Jerry Bohlander at UFC 18 and additionally put on a disrespectful shirt in the octagon after the fight with Bohlander. The feud exploded after his second fight with Guy Mezger at UFC 19 when Ortiz put on a shirt that said "Gay Mezger is my Bitch" and gave the middle finger to the Lion's Den corner. Ken Shamrock leaped onto the top of the cage and screamed at Ortiz, angrily waving his finger in Ortiz's face and ordering Ortiz to put a cease to the disrespectful acts. Ortiz's antics enraged the Lion's Den, especially Guy Mezger and leader Ken Shamrock and eventually built into one of the highest-selling mixed martial arts Pay Per View events of all time in the United States

So, feud, ultimate disrespect, not professional, mayhem in the ring and it leads to, at the time, the highest selling MMA PPV in the US.

And is fighting at a press conference that much different from a post fight brawl? What about where a fighter holds a submission too long or repeatedly punches an opponent where the referee is clearly trying to pull him off a downed fighter? What is worse for the sport and more damaging to the fighters?

I can't believe that people are actually that upset about this.

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

Anyone want to know what the sports writers think? Well on Around the Horn (sports show on ESPN) they said that MMA is a joke and that for Gus Johnson to be involved it demoralizes him (Gus) and that MMA is worthless and basically trashed it.

LOL....17 years of UFC and it takes 1 event for it to be called a joke? Gus has covered numerous boxing events, anyone who watches MMA knows Gus isn't too knowledgeable, he plays the average guy who doesn't know much. Mauro Ranallo plays the educated commentator who has commentated for around 10 years (7 years ago for Pride....10 years of Muay Thai and KOTC fights)

[XxChAoS32xX]

I have noticed a lot of people comparing the strikeforce post fight brawl to fights in other major sports such as football, basketball, hockey,etc.
People are right, scuffles happen very often in these sports especially in boxing, I have just never seen a 6 on 1 "scuffle" in any of those sports.

EDIT: You guy are right though, it is being overblown. Critics of the sport are always going to be against it, this is just some fuel for the fire.
I just feel that many of the fighters involved in the jumping should be punished. Maybe some suspensions would work.

[gotblood?]

....too angered by Cesar Gracie to really write what I feel, so I'll just say this:


Judging by his interview, I'm not surprised by the way his fighters acting Saturday night.

As for the idiots on espn...espn has been shit for a LONG time now, so I couldn't give two ****s about their comments on a sport they only cover when there's a blemish.


**** espn.

[MetalHead75]

Originally Posted by beau420

In the nineties, it happened about 2 or 3 times a year in boxing.

Actually, it happened just last month when Mayweather and Mosley were doing their very first publicity tour to promote their upcoming fight. They got into a shoving match and had to be separated before they came to blows.

Mayweather, Mosley nearly come to blows - Other sports- nbcsports.msnbc.com

Originally Posted by Rumble

But after hearing Cesar Gracie calling everyone pussies and crybabies I guess I can see the mentality that he teaches over at his camp.

Agreed, and it's sad really that such a respectable name like the Gracie name is not only being tarnished by fighters behavior, but also having Cesar Gracie himself respond the way he did.

Originally Posted by beau420

Montreal game tonight will probably be watched by around 3+ million people in Canada alone. But then again, we are both Canadian and hockey takes center stage on our sports channels unlike in a lot of the states.

Yeah, there's definitely not as many hockey fans as there used to be, but where I live (Upper Michigan) it's HUGE and probably a three way tie with MMA and college football as my favorite sports.

[Happypants]

Originally Posted by XxChAoS32xX

Dude, he means that Americans don't watch hockey .

People watch hockey

27.6 million average seems pretty good?

[XxChAoS32xX]

Um, thats the Olympics, totally different than the NHL.

Hell, even I watched watched the Canada vs USA game.