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[Qball1974]

Originally Posted by b1uef1ow

He did like once so...

Pretty sure it was a reversal?

[franky4fingerz]

I like Daley but trashing another fighter as boring that finished you by submission is a little much. And Josh Koscheck is pretty damn boring alot of the time too, except when his wig gets split.

[b1uef1ow]

Originally Posted by Qball1974

Pretty sure it was a reversal?

Yeah you might be right it have been a reversal from the mount GSP had.

[The Natural994]

Originally Posted by Qball1974

Kos took GSP down? I really don't remember this.

He took him down, and he won a round against GSP. I also think its worth noting GSP never really utilized his wrestling in the manner he does now till he lost to Serra. That fight forced him to evolve and use his best tools to keep him out of danger. I think it surprised Koscheck who in every other fight before GSP and in every fight after GSP has been by leaps and bounds the better wrestler... IMO kos wasn't prepared for that and to be honest a wrestler of his caliber probably focuses more on the other areas he's deficient in and doesn't go in there and drill wrestling for hours.... I think if Koscheck would take a similar approach to GSP and GSPs game plans....he could learn alot....and he could be as dominant as GSP. If and when they fight again I really hope Kos is going devote his camp to wrestling and make GSP beat him in other areas because I don't think Koscheck loses the wresting battle twice... GSP is a phenomenal athlete and is definitely more well rounded but I think GSP is at the point where against someone like Kos.... if GSP's wrestling and TD's gets neutralized...I think he will be uncomfortable dealing with Kos's unorthodox striking and it will make the fight interesting. I think GSP could be in the situation Kos was in against him if they fought. It might not be the most exciting fight if they have a rematch but it could be a very interesting technical battle.

[roaddawg]

Originally Posted by gotblood?

This is how I feel every time RoadDawg makes a comment.

You handle it much better than I do. I have a short temper...

Even when I don't make a comment my name seems to appear in your posts quite frequently. Don't feel bad though I have to listen to your bs too

[KamikazePongtha]

I love Daley, he's exciting, but he's almost one dimensional. I don't hate Shields, his jiu-jitsu is flawless and wrestling is great, but his fights are pretty dull. GSP is the same way but he is more well rounded and more exciting.

I still see Daley knocking out Shields, that's if his takedown defense is MUCH better than before.

[b1uef1ow]

Originally Posted by The Natural994

He took him down, and he won a round against GSP. I also think its worth noting GSP never really utilized his wrestling in the manner he does now till he lost to Serra. That fight forced him to evolve and use his best tools to keep him out of danger. I think it surprised Koscheck who in every other fight before GSP and in every fight after GSP has been by leaps and bounds the better wrestler... IMO kos wasn't prepared for that and to be honest a wrestler of his caliber probably focuses more on the other areas he's deficient in and doesn't go in there and drill wrestling for hours.... I think if Koscheck would take a similar approach to GSP and GSPs game plans....he could learn alot....and he could be as dominant as GSP. If and when they fight again I really hope Kos is going devote his camp to wrestling and make GSP beat him in other areas because I don't think Koscheck loses the wresting battle twice... GSP is a phenomenal athlete and is definitely more well rounded but I think GSP is at the point where against someone like Kos.... if GSP's wrestling and TD's gets neutralized...I think he will be uncomfortable dealing with Kos's unorthodox striking and it will make the fight interesting. I think GSP could be in the situation Kos was in against him if they fought. It might not be the most exciting fight if they have a rematch but it could be a very interesting technical battle.

Just watched the entire fight of GSP/Kos

rd. 1) GSP took Kos down and controlled him for 4 minutes on the ground, last might Kos got up and from the clinch too GSP down for the last minute.

rd. 2) GSP took Kos down again and controlled him on the ground attempting multiple kimuras and hitting him in with elbows and punches to the body.

rd. 3) GSP tooled Kos in the standup for the first 3 minutes, Kos unsuccessfully tries for a takedown and ends up on his back receiving elbows and punches to the head for his troubles.

Kos did not win one round of that fight.

[The Natural994]

Originally Posted by b1uef1ow

Kos did not win one round of that fight.

Not according to the judges. 2 out of 3 scored it 29-28.

[b1uef1ow]

Originally Posted by The Natural994

Not according to the judges. 2 out of 3 scored it 29-28.

After all the shit we know about MMA judging (or lack there of) do you really take them in all professional seriousness?

Watch the fight you'll see. 1 takedown in the last minute plus some top game which consisted of a couple of blocked punches does not win you around.

[Qball1974]

Originally Posted by The Natural994

He took him down, and he won a round against GSP. I also think its worth noting GSP never really utilized his wrestling in the manner he does now till he lost to Serra. That fight forced him to evolve and use his best tools to keep him out of danger. I think it surprised Koscheck who in every other fight before GSP and in every fight after GSP has been by leaps and bounds the better wrestler... IMO kos wasn't prepared for that and to be honest a wrestler of his caliber probably focuses more on the other areas he's deficient in and doesn't go in there and drill wrestling for hours.... I think if Koscheck would take a similar approach to GSP and GSPs game plans....he could learn alot....and he could be as dominant as GSP. If and when they fight again I really hope Kos is going devote his camp to wrestling and make GSP beat him in other areas because I don't think Koscheck loses the wresting battle twice... GSP is a phenomenal athlete and is definitely more well rounded but I think GSP is at the point where against someone like Kos.... if GSP's wrestling and TD's gets neutralized...I think he will be uncomfortable dealing with Kos's unorthodox striking and it will make the fight interesting. I think GSP could be in the situation Kos was in against him if they fought. It might not be the most exciting fight if they have a rematch but it could be a very interesting technical battle.

I'd bet money on Kos getting smashed in a rematch.