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06-24-2010, 11:21 AM
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The funny thing about this whole debaucle is that Leben is LESS dangerous than Wandy I think. Wandy is a punisher, he is a bloodthirsty maniac. Chris Leben is a somewhat one demensional with good getting off the ground skills. I don't think Sexyama cares about how popular he is in the UFC, I think he wanted this fight because Wanderlei being on his resume makes him more popular in Japan.
At the very least we know that Leben didn't go home and load up on steroids to help heal from his last fight, because that shit would shine bright as the sun in a piss test 10 days from now.
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06-24-2010, 11:22 AM
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My question is how can he say leben not a big name? I mean he know wandy, I understand that, but like someone already said he has only had one fight in the ufc, he was no right to make demands like that. I could see if they were asking him to take the fight on short notice but the truth is he been trainingand wandy and chris have similar banging styles. I just dont understand his tought process
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06-24-2010, 11:31 AM
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If he doesn't want to fight Leben that is completely up to him so everyone should stfu. How can you call him a pussy? That is retarded. If you train for a year and your opponant pulls out 10days before then you don't have just fight whoever they want you to fight. Unless you know for sure you are going to win ala Crocop. They throw in a replacement who had been fighting on the prelims not too long ago. I like Leben but I saw so many people hating on him saying he would never amount to anything and where are those people now defending Akiyama's decision. They should all be here screaming "Leben is a bum who doesn't even deserve this fight" but I guess the Simpson KO got them singing a different tune. Saying Leben is not as big a name as WSilva is completely accurate and the fight is a huge risk that could put Akiyama back at square 1... In the fight game you should take risks to get to the top (like what Leben wants to do) but when you are already almost at the summit why would you risk it all on someone like Leben 10days out? Someone who doesn't care about winning or losing, only about trying to KO you. If he had gotten the WSilva fight and won he'd be like 1fight away from a title shot with the way the UFC does things.
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06-24-2010, 11:38 AM
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I had absolutely no respect for this greaser but now? I am on the official I-HATE-UGLIYAMA bandwagon!
oh and yeah Wandy and Leben are very similar in their attack so it doesn't really matter. they didn't put him up against Jon Fitch |
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06-24-2010, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloodbeard If he doesn't want to fight Leben that is completely up to him so everyone should stfu. How can you call him a pussy? That is retarded. If you train for a year and your opponant pulls out 10days before then you don't have just fight whoever they want you to fight. Unless you know for sure you are going to win ala Crocop. They throw in a replacement who had been fighting on the prelims not too long ago. I like Leben but I saw so many people hating on him saying he would never amount to anything and where are those people now defending Akiyama's decision. They should all be here screaming "Leben is a bum who doesn't even deserve this fight" but I guess the Simpson KO got them singing a different tune. Saying Leben is not as big a name as WSilva is completely accurate and the fight is a huge risk that could put Akiyama back at square 1... In the fight game you should take risks to get to the top (like what Leben wants to do) but when you are already almost at the summit why would you risk it all on someone like Leben 10days out? Someone who doesn't care about winning or losing, only about trying to KO you. If he had gotten the WSilva fight and won he'd be like 1fight away from a title shot with the way the UFC does things. | I never, and never will call anyone who fights a pussy, they put it all on the line evertime they get in that cage. I still dont think he has the right to demand to fight a name. Chris is a bigger name then he is to to most ufc fans.
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06-24-2010, 11:48 AM
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my only real question for Akiyama is, "you think Leben isn't a big name, but you fought Alan Belcher?"
Leben is deeper than dick in this sports vajayjay and Alan Belcher is just starting to get his star shining. Sure Leben got caught stacking the deck, but if you're an idiot and you don't think that at least 60% of the fighters in the UFC are roiding up then cycling off before the fight then you're a retard.
I'm sure guys like Rich Franklin and Chuck Liddell and Kenny Florian are clean as a whistle, but if somebody as "questionably puny" as Leben is doping, how does that bode for guys like Brock Lesnar, or GSP, or Todd Duffee, or any other guy that looks like an incredible Hulk stunt double.
People's common misconception about roids are that people take them to get bigger and stronger, and that isn't always the case. Roids help you heal from bad injuries at a MUCH faster rate and that is the bulk of the usage that you'll never find out about.
I guarantee at any point now, probably almost 90% of MMA's elite fighting ranks have taken or will take some kind of steroid to help heal a massive problem with their body in preparation for a future fight or coming off of a painful brawl. It's just how things work in professional sports because their isn't any random testing in a fighters offtime to help create the fears behind taking steroids.
Random off-season and midseason testing is the only reason baseball players get caught, and it would create a shitstorm if the UFC would just call all of their fighters to vegas next week and said "will you please step over here and piss in this cup, then submit for a blood sample over there". I can guarantee without a shadow of a doubt more than 25% of them would piss radioactive, and more than probably 50% - 60% would bleed it.
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06-24-2010, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloodbeard If he doesn't want to fight Leben that is completely up to him so everyone should stfu. How can you call him a pussy? That is retarded. If you train for a year and your opponant pulls out 10days before then you don't have just fight whoever they want you to fight. Unless you know for sure you are going to win ala Crocop. They throw in a replacement who had been fighting on the prelims not too long ago. I like Leben but I saw so many people hating on him saying he would never amount to anything and where are those people now defending Akiyama's decision. They should all be here screaming "Leben is a bum who doesn't even deserve this fight" but I guess the Simpson KO got them singing a different tune. Saying Leben is not as big a name as WSilva is completely accurate and the fight is a huge risk that could put Akiyama back at square 1... In the fight game you should take risks to get to the top (like what Leben wants to do) but when you are already almost at the summit why would you risk it all on someone like Leben 10days out? Someone who doesn't care about winning or losing, only about trying to KO you. If he had gotten the WSilva fight and won he'd be like 1fight away from a title shot with the way the UFC does things. | ...EXACTLY!!...good post. Yes Leban may be a name to fans in the US,but he is no where near the name Wand is. I'm sure Akiyama is very dissapointed he no longer is fighting a guyt he has been training for....for what 6 to 8 months ?? I bet he ends up taking the fight.
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06-24-2010, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloodbeard the fight is a huge risk that could put Akiyama back at square 1... In the fight game you should take risks to get to the top (like what Leben wants to do) but when you are already almost at the summit why would you risk it all on someone like Leben 10days out? Someone who doesn't care about winning or losing, only about trying to KO you. If he had gotten the WSilva fight and won he'd be like 1fight away from a title shot with the way the UFC does things. | First of all, Akiyama is nowhere near "the summit" of the middleweight division in the UFC. He is not a top 10 fighter in his division and poses absolutely no threat to Anderson Silva. Anyone who thinks he does needs to see a doctor.
Secondly, he should be jumping for joy that the UFC DID find him a sufficient replacement on such short notice. It's not like when Forrest pulled out against Rogerio and they replaced him with Jason Brilz (granted he made that one a fight). Chris Leben is a big time name in North America and to UFC fans specifically. And North American fans should be the ones he is trying to impress anyway. Everyone in Japan already knows what he's got, but in America he is a no name at this point. Beating Leben would be huge for his UFC career.
I'm not going to be as diplomatic as some of the people here. I'm calling Akiyama out on this one. He's nervous that he will get KTFO and comes across as a coward in this situation imo.
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06-24-2010, 12:00 PM
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Pussy.. Chris will KO him with his looping punch.
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06-24-2010, 12:08 PM
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Im sorry but this isnt a pick and choose company anymore. So what Wandy pulled out. Your job is to fight and if you dont fight its not going to help you move up the ranks anyway. He beat Belcher by decision, big whoop. Hasn't fought in a year, thats his own problem. If he can put Leben to sleep that would speak worlds of him since the last guy and i think the only guy to KO Leben is Silva and look where he's at. Leben is one of the toughest fuckers in the UFC and if he can man up and beat the guy that would do a lot. Time to put on your big boy undies Akiyama and man the hell up.
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