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[YukonJordan]

Dana White is so F*&%ing stupid.

Let's fact check his stuff.

Werdum couldn't cut it in the UFC. DURRRR. Werdum left due a monetary disagreement. THE UFC AND DANA WHITE WANTED HIM BACK.

Spike TV Replay vs Showtime's live card. 1.5mil vs 400k. DURRRRRRRRRR. Premium cable vs basic cable. Don't need to be a genius to figure this one out.

Dissing Overeem. DURRRRRRRRRRRR. Overeem is a different animal than the one who fought Chuck Liddell.

It was pointed out above but how the fuck do you go from licking Carwin's nuts for being 12-0 to ripping on Fedor who one week ago was 31-0-1.

In ten years when the UFC is in the same place it is now in terms of being a fully legitimized major sport, ala the NFL, NHL, NBA and MLB, Dana White will only be able to look in the mirror when it comes to blame someone.

Oh and those websites that have no idea what they're talking about helped keep this sport alive before it got to where it is today you bald headed piece of monkey trash.

[braddahmatt]

Originally Posted by IceCold48

this is a little different then mayweather pacquiao in the sense where floydd is doing thigs seemingly intentionally to make the fight not happen.

Dude, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.... Making someone adhere to olympic style drug testing is intentionally trying to make the fight not happen??? It's what should happen because pee tests are easy to pass. You want to talk about intentionally trying to make the fight not happen??? How about putting out a stipulation like, "for every pound you come in overweight you owe me 10 million dollars!!!" Thats what Pacquiao tried to do thinking Mayweather wouldn't accept, but he did. I don't respect anyone who will deny a drug test unless it causes actual harm. Try not to bring up comparisons to other sports you have no idea about... stick to MMA.

[KnowledgeKnown]

Originally Posted by braddahmatt

Dude, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.... Making someone adhere to olympic style drug testing is intentionally trying to make the fight not happen??? It's what should happen because pee tests are easy to pass. You want to talk about intentionally trying to make the fight not happen??? How about putting out a stipulation like, "for every pound you come in overweight you owe me 10 million dollars!!!" Thats what Pacquiao tried to do thinking Mayweather wouldn't accept, but he did. I don't respect anyone who will deny a drug test unless it causes actual harm. Try not to bring up comparisons to other sports you have no idea about... stick to MMA.

I agree with what you're saying, but in fairness to Manny, he agreed to take a blood test immediately following the fight. He took a blood test before a fight once and lost, so he's superstitious about it. If he popped, the fight would be a no contest and he'd go down in history as a cheater.

I think Mayweather should accept. But you're right, it's not the same thing.

[v3xi]

I think we should start thinking about NOT posting things Dana says as news. He should have the MMABay treatment where anyone linking him gets banned.

How can you have any form of logical debate (what these forums are for) when the topic itself is 100% bullshit? Nothing that Dana says anymore is worth responding to.

[braddahmatt]

Originally Posted by KnowledgeKnown

I agree with what you're saying, but in fairness to Manny, he agreed to take a blood test immediately following the fight. He took a blood test before a fight once and lost, so he's superstitious about it. If he popped, the fight would be a no contest and he'd go down in history as a cheater.

I think Mayweather should accept. But you're right, it's not the same thing.

But say Mayweather takes a beating from a guy on steroids. That's one beating he didn't have to take and one fight closer to being brain dead. Not saying Manny is on steroids, just hypothetical. I think it's better to get the dirty business out before the fight like the Fedor and Barnett fight. Therefore no one has to take a beating. I see what youre saying also though. But I'm done, I won't hijack the thread anymore... just had to get it off my chest.

[kingrobert]

Originally Posted by KnowledgeKnown

Saying Werdum couldn't make it in the UFC isn't factually accurate. And....uhhg listen there's a quite a bit of truth to a lot of what Dana is saying but he's spinning it. People will believe all of this, but it's how he's spinning it.

Wedrum belongs in the UFC. I believe, and did when he left, he was in the top 5 in the UFC. He could beat Mir, if Brock took it to the ground before they got sweaty he coud certainly submit Lesnar, I don't think he could beat Carwin in a second meeting. It's A very bad match up. Depending how good JDS's td defense is would dictate how that match up would go. But like I said top 5

Fabrico may have beat Fedor but that doesnt mean he should be in the UFC. I think Fedor lost the fight more then Werdum won the fight. Werdum was 1-2 in the UFC. A very lack luster fight against AA and a KO loss to Junior (witch doesnt look so bad now). He beat Gonzaga who can't seem to beat anyone thats any good unless you count CroCop who we all know was done before he entered the UFC.

Werdum beat Mike Kyle but got dropped in that fight and was in some trouble. He beat Bigfoot in what was a close fight. He beat Fedor even though Fedor rocked him and went the only place that Werdum could beat him. His stand up is average at best. I just dont know if he could beat any of the top HWs in the UFC, He tends to want to stand instead of getting the fight to the ground. I just dont know where I would rand Werdum as a HW right now.

[KnowledgeKnown]

Originally Posted by kingrobert

Fabrico may have beat Fedor but that doesnt mean he should be in the UFC. I think Fedor lost the fight more then Werdum won the fight. Werdum was 1-2 in the UFC. A very lack luster fight against AA and a KO loss to Junior (witch doesnt look so bad now). He beat Gonzaga who can't seem to beat anyone thats any good unless you count CroCop who we all know was done before he entered the UFC.

Werdum beat Mike Kyle but got dropped in that fight and was in some trouble. He beat Bigfoot in what was a close fight. He beat Fedor even though Fedor rocked him and went the only place that Werdum could beat him. His stand up is average at best. I just dont know if he could beat any of the top HWs in the UFC, He tends to want to stand instead of getting the fight to the ground. I just dont know where I would rand Werdum as a HW right now.

You underestimating Werdum. He lost a close decision to Arlovski who was backpedaling the whole fight and was released because of that performance, and was caught by JDS. Who's not getting knocked out by JDS? As I said, Werdum would beat Mir. And wow, talk about taking away a victory. Fedor lost more that Werdum won? You know better than that.

Werdum wasn't hurt by Fedor, watch the shot again, he stumbled, but he went to the ground as a calculated risk. He lured Fedor to the ground. It's no secret it's exactly what he wanted. He never looked confused or dazed, he started working for the submission immediately.

[fishy]

Dana is a complete fucking douche bag but at the same time he's doing what's best for his company, he's using this Fedor loss to take in as much leverage as he can. It's funny because after going undefeated for nearly a decade, he gets submitted by a world class grappler and automatically is over-rated and Lesnar who was submitted by Mir is still better...But the fans will actually believe the shit that comes out of Dana's mouth, he already knows this and that's why says all this garbage.

[U shut ur FACE]

Originally Posted by Qball1974

"Anybody that knows anything about mixed martial arts knows it’s hard to go undefeated." Dana White

lol try 31-0 for ten years

Well I don't really see how this conflicts with Dana's overall point. He was pointing out that he hasn't really fought top competition since 2005. Though he has previously proven himself and justified his spot at #1 for a considerable amount of time, he's saying that he shouldn't have been ranked top in the world for the time that he was. It actually sorta justifies Dana's point rather than takes away from it.

Doesn't really conflict with Fedor's record as his point is he's not fighting top competition while still maintaining his spot at #1, and Dana never agreed.

Keep in mind, I am not saying I agree with what he pointed out because I believe Fedor is a great fighter and has proven to be one of the best that has ever lived. However, I do question his adaptability to the new age of MMA and sincerely hope that he can meet success in the future.

[xdevilhawk138x]

Dana weren't you the one who was kissing AO and Semmy Schilt ass at UFC 93 telling them to sign with you..Dana STFU That was 2003 when Chuck Beat him and stop bringing his name up his purpose now is getting KO every time.. As for you bashing on Fedor here you go I don't you will stop until someone puts duct tape in your mouth.