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[Chute_Boxe44]

Originally Posted by Caine2878

Read your post then read mine. Did you not say because of brocks size advantage over the fighters he faces he isn't what a p4p fighter is? Those are your words correct?

Yes my dear boy that is what I said. I also wrote a number of other lines if you care to read them as well describing what I feel is the right definition. If you don't like it then I'm so sorry if I angered your poor little fingers enough to type such an emotional response. But thats just my opinion Jimmy John Jacob, it's not set in stone or anything so calm urself, have a drink and relax.

[Caine2878]

^^^ LOL so because I post a response disagreeing with your opinion I'm emotional and angry? Have you people ever heard of a debate or that people are allowed to have a different opinion than yours? People on these boards kill me sometimes when you post something disagreeing with what they post you are angry and emotional LOL

[joeyP]

GL Jeff. That post with the 10 points was the stupidest post I've seen in a while. Don Frye summed it up nicely.

You can't look at who a fighter has fought and look what they've done after, because as you saw, it can make any fighter's resume look like horse shit. Fedor has fought the highest ranked fighters he could besides his fights in Japan, and wow, why'd he do that? Oh yeah, he cares about the fans

[snakebite]

Originally Posted by braddahmatt

P4P is skill for skill... take all weight advantages, age, recent activity, etc away... Mohammad Ali is retired but still considered one of the best p4p fighters in the world.

That being said, Fedor has shown throughout his career he is among the best regardless of who he has fought recently. I think that's more affecting his legacy and not his p4p status.

i wish i could take the neg back i gave you the other day, because this post was awesome.

[braddahmatt]

Originally Posted by Caine2878

So because brock is big he can never be p4p champ? That is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard. P4P has nothing to do with size/weight but body of work. Fights you win. Your definition of p4p is the one that is incorrect. Hell by your defintion no heavyweight can win if they don't move down in weight classes? LMAO you can't be serious.

He never said Brock could never be p4p champ. If Brock comes out and shows decent stand up with a couple knockouts and some good BJJ then yes he can be p4p. But simply using size and weight advantages to win fights is not a skill and should get you no where on a p4p list.

[Caine2878]

Originally Posted by braddahmatt

He never said Brock could never be p4p champ. If Brock comes out and shows decent stand up with a couple knockouts and some good BJJ then yes he can be p4p. But simply using size and weight advantages to win fights is not a skill and should get you no where on a p4p list.

What size weight advantage did he have when he choked out Carwin? They are both pretty much the same size. I'm sorry but you can't downplay what some does because they are naturally bigger. Its not his fault the weight class is what it is. HW division is 265 he fights at 265. I don't even like the dude but if he continues dominating the way he is IMO he is going to rise up the P4P list.

[braddahmatt]

Originally Posted by Caine2878

What size weight advantage did he have when he choked out Carwin? They are both pretty much the same size. I'm sorry but you can't downplay what some does because they are naturally bigger. Its not his fault the weight class is what it is. HW division is 265 he fights at 265. I don't even like the dude but if he continues dominating the way he is IMO he is going to rise up the P4P list.

He didn't use size and weight advantage against Carwin but with all his other wins he has. There is no skill in being bigger than someone and just smothering them, and that's what p4p measures... skill. Like I said in my last post... once he starts sharpening up his stand up and BJJ he will be a p4p great.

[joeyP]

Originally Posted by Caine2878

What size weight advantage did he have when he choked out Carwin? They are both pretty much the same size. I'm sorry but you can't downplay what some does because they are naturally bigger. Its not his fault the weight class is what it is. HW division is 265 he fights at 265. I don't even like the dude but if he continues dominating the way he is IMO he is going to rise up the P4P list.

can I ask what skill at all Lesnar used in the Carwin fight though? turtling for a whole round, and then taking down and choking out somebody who could barely move they were so gassed?

[TheKidInside]

braddahmatt is either bipolar or has split personality disorder, I swear.

[braddahmatt]

Originally Posted by TheKidInside

braddahmatt is either bipolar or has split personality disorder, I swear.

haha this is funny as fuck haha why because i dont take arguments on here serious and just take them as debates... i can call you names and you can call me names haha, i dont care, at the end of the day its nothing personal...

p.s. I listened to your latest podcast the other day... it was pretty good, i must admit