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[MMA, Esq.]

Originally Posted by snakebite

This should get the vote for stupidest newb post of the year!! So your saying if the greatest fighter of all time loses 2 fights his name aint worth shit?! Are you fucking retarded? Also, no matter what the negotiation request was, DANA WHITE AND THE UFC are the ones tha denied fedor. They are responsible for fedor not fighting in the ufc period. Who gives a shit how much money they offered the guy. You think fedor is hard up for cash? In the very beggining they wouldnt let him participate in his national sport that has nothing to do with mma. THEN when fedor said no they said ok we will let you do sambo. I swear all of MMA is just turning into UFC to these casual fans. I wish more casual fans would actually do some research, and watch old fights in japan, and in other organzations. Its more the obvious UFC is more about money then fights, they only care about themselves not the sport. Why do they bash EVERY other fighter that dont belong to them? They take money from fighters pockets by denying who they are sponsored by just because they sponsor in other mma promos. As well as if your in the EA game you will never fight in the ufc. (which was an open threat). I remember when pride had no problem letting ufc and danas goldenboy( lidell) come right in and try his hand. Luckily rampage took care of that problem. There is more to MMA then just the fucking UFC.

Whoa, simmer down there. He didn't fuck your girlfriend, he was just stating his opinion, lol.

Let's bring some reality into YOUR post. As to the Sambo issue - EVERY major sports contract has a clause in it that prevents the talent from participating into any dangerous activity that could jeopardize the talent's health or prevent the company from using the talent. Just like an NBA contract says you can't ride motorcycles, the UFC's contract says you can't fight Sambo - it's dangerous and can put you on the shelf for a period of time in which they can't use the fighter. Also, it was two separate negotiations - the "no sambo" was pre-Affliction, and the change to allowing the sambo was post-Affliction. It wasn't as if they said "no", Fedor walked and the UFC said "wait, wait, I guess it's ok, then".

Next, your "DANA AND THE UFC are the ones who denied Fedor" is also a tad misleading. You can't make a demand that you KNOW will never be plausible and say it's the other party's fault that negotiations break down. "You mean you didn't get the job at Microsoft? Why?" / "Bill Gates wouldn't give me half of the company." / "Well, its their fault they didn't give you the job, then."

Further, "Its more the obvious UFC is more about money then fights, they only care about themselves not the sport." Really? So Pride cared more about the sport? HMC and Zulu were important to the sport of MMA? No, they put on those horrid displays of freak show crap because the fans wanted it and they made MONEY from it. The UFC is far from a holy organization, but lets not pretend that any other fight promotion on the planet (past or present) isn't the exact same way and money driven.

[roaddawg]

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[hot_rod1886]

Originally Posted by MMA, Esq.

Whoa, simmer down there. He didn't fuck your girlfriend, he was just stating his opinion, lol.

Let's bring some reality into YOUR post. As to the Sambo issue - EVERY major sports contract has a clause in it that prevents the talent from participating into any dangerous activity that could jeopardize the talent's health or prevent the company from using the talent. Just like an NBA contract says you can't ride motorcycles, the UFC's contract says you can't fight Sambo - it's dangerous and can put you on the shelf for a period of time in which they can't use the fighter. Also, it was two separate negotiations - the "no sambo" was pre-Affliction, and the change to allowing the sambo was post-Affliction. It wasn't as if they said "no", Fedor walked and the UFC said "wait, wait, I guess it's ok, then".

Next, your "DANA AND THE UFC are the ones who denied Fedor" is also a tad misleading. You can't make a demand that you KNOW will never be plausible and say it's the other party's fault that negotiations break down. "You mean you didn't get the job at Microsoft? Why?" / "Bill Gates wouldn't give me half of the company." / "Well, its their fault they didn't give you the job, then."

Further, "Its more the obvious UFC is more about money then fights, they only care about themselves not the sport." Really? So Pride cared more about the sport? HMC and Zulu were important to the sport of MMA? No, they put on those horrid displays of freak show crap because the fans wanted it and they made MONEY from it. The UFC is far from a holy organization, but lets not pretend that any other fight promotion on the planet (past or present) isn't the exact same way and money driven.

My thoughts exactly.

[nezlam1]

Originally Posted by dimerules28

fedor is definetly not a cash cow. He brings in horrible ratings. (except maybe on cbs) Fedor has nothing that Dana needs and thats why he will neves be in the ufc.

Yea why would you want the best HW of all time fighting in your promotion. I know he sucks after losing one fight in ten years. Brock vs Fedor doesn't interest you?

[Trojan Fight Club]

The UFC will never come to terms with Fedor and if by some strain of events M-1 collapses, Fedor agrees to meet with the UFC, he gets signed and then gets a fight agreement, by the time that fight takes place he will be 43 and past his prime. I think we need to accept that Fedor in the UFC is not going to happen anytime soon if ever. I would vote that it never happens.

[dimerules28]

Originally Posted by nezlam1

Yea why would you want the best HW of all time fighting in your promotion. I know he sucks after losing one fight in ten years. Brock vs Fedor doesn't interest you?

Lol so our fantasy fights are what Dana needs. You kinda missd the point.

[Leucoethiops]

Originally Posted by snakebite

This should get the vote for stupidest newb post of the year!!

But it won't, because if there was such an award, you'd win it, and claim every possible 'runner up' spot.

[Pasha K]

We will never ever see fedor vs brock so stop dreaming.
fedor wont come to UFC and even if one day that happens Brock wont be anymore the champion at that time.

About what Fink says, not all the fans want Fedor vs Werdum II, at least I prefer to see fedor vs Overeem, then fedor vs Werdum and then see fedor in UFC, destroy their Top 3 best Hws, win the UFC championship, make look dana like an idiot and then retire.

[The_Mab69]

Guranteed money? WTF these motherfuckers are clowns, fucking idiots (Fedors mngt), ofcourse they would want guranteed money. Thats what a contract is.

They obviosuly know nothing about business or anything for that matter, on that note if they knew anything about business they would have accepted that last fat ass contract that Dana threw at them before their golden boy risked getting beat or worse injured. I have a bachelors in business mngt, and almost an MBA, so you Fedor nuthuggers dont challenge me on this comment.

I hate it for Fedor, that he has to deal with these clowns. But Fedor aint shit anymore, only one loss (a bull shit loss at that) has completely depreciated his stock in the MMA market more so than any other fighter I have ever seen lose one time.

Fedor will have to work hard, and consistently win (against relevant people) in order to win over the casual fans and get the fence guys (like me) on the Fedor bandwgon. IMO he has not been the best fighter in the world in about 5 years, I agree with almost everything that Dana has ever said about Fedor.

Dana should sign him to a piddly 3 fight contract (he said 20k to show 20k to fight, but he was venting). Teach these dumbasses not to fuck with the man who runs the MMA world, send them into mom and pop independent circut shows, or pay them nothing.

These dumbasses (not Fedor) have jerked Dana, the UFC, and most importantly us fans around long enough, now Dana has the upper hand and he should capitalize, dont pay what he originally promised, that was ridiculous. Give Fedor Shane Carwin for his first fight, teach them what top level competitors feel like, and how a legitimate successful MMA promotion is ran.

I will never understand how a "true" MMA fan can say that they do not want to see Fedor in the UFC, that is mind boggling. With Fedor in the UFC the age old debate of "is Fedor the best?" will finally be solved, and Fedor fanboys fear this I believe.

Peace.

[JimmyMoore]

^ This guy...

Yes, Fedor NEEDS to legitimize himself with hard work and consistent wins to get in your good graces. I mean, what is his legacy without you and all the casual fans?!

Is there a way to restrict certain members to the*noob*section only? Maybe introduce a test requirement a la national citizenship to earn the right to post an opinion...