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[IceCold48]

immeidate rematches are necessarry in some cases.

shoguna nd machida definetly did. the ufc and other mma promotions have no say over what the godamn judges do and losing a title shot really fucks up your career so there should be a rematch there if stupid incompetent boxing judges are the reason you lose.

silva/sonnen as much as it broke my heart should not have been an immediate rematch. he legit lost even though he killed him for 23 minutes. if they are going to give rematches to guys because they lose in the 5th round then what is the point of even having a fifth round? dont get it.

as for that list, a lot of the fights in the same result sections were retarded rematches where the guy who lost really had not changed that much that they shouldve gotten another shot at the original winner. franklin/silva prime example. if fitch and gsp remtach itll be the same situation.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by Dr. MMA

Okay, so you confirmed that he gassed in both Edgar fights.

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

Well I just wanted to point out that this Penn conditioning "myth" has more truth to it than people would like to believe.

I'm not talking about the Edgar fights--although I don't see it as conditioning that cost him the second one, I thought it was game planning. I'm talking about when mopes were saying Diego was going to come out and outwork him because "BJ has always had conditioning issues" and he couldn't keep up with Sanchez's pace, etc.

I think there is a difference between a focused Penn and an unfocused Penn...and even then, I don't believe lack of focus is what lost him the second Edgar fight, it was lack of a coherent fight plan. But I think his cardio ranges between very good and excellent, where the myth has him at poor to fair at best.

Originally Posted by the_dark_angel_4ever

I think it'll be interesting if/when Fedor smashes Werdum in a rematch, say in 60 seconds or so.... do they then immediately have to have a rubber match? THAT right there is the exact reason I dislike immediate rematches.

That's an interesting case, but is by no means a standard situation. In SF, you have a "champion" [pardon me while I puke a little bit, just typing that] who has never faced a top 10 opponent in his entire career at HW and refuses to defend the belt. You have two fighters who are ranked above him who at least seem to be willing to fight [Werdum asked for a rematch immediately, and then needed surgery] so I'd actually be fine with a rubber match there. Let AO fight K1, let him pick off B or C level guys in DREAM--it would be great to strip him of the SF belt, but Coker lacks the testicular mass to pull that off--and continue to pretend to be the best SF has to offer, when everyone else knows otherwise.

The only one I'd be concerned about is Bigfoot, who I feel needs another win to solidify him as a solidly-ranked top 10 fighter regardless.

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