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08-22-2010, 09:58 AM
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| Bobby Lashley Released From Hospital, Was Severely Dehydrated Bobby Lashley Released From Hospital, Was Severely Dehydrated - Bloody Elbow Quote:
PW Torch with the update:
The latest update on former WWE and TNA wrestler Bobby Lashley is that he was released from the hospital early Sunday morning (late Saturday night), according to Strikeforce officials.
Lashley was said to be "extremely dehydrated" after his fight against Chad Griggs on the "Showtime: Houston" fight card. At the hospital, Lashley was treated with multiple IV bags to pump fluids back into his system.
Severe dehydration plus punches to the head could have added up to serious brain damage, I'm sure that didn't happen to Lashley though as he was released several hours after admission.
There is also talk from Scott Coker that Lashley needs to do some soul searching to determine if he wants to continue on in MMA, a rather odd thing for Scott to be saying following a guy's first loss. |
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08-22-2010, 12:33 PM
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I hope Lashley does come back, maybe slim down and loose some bulk and then concentrate primarily on striking. IMO he should only spar when he's dead tired to get used to pushing himself and controlling his body tired. Still has great potential. We will learn alot about the Man if he should decide to return, which I think he will.
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08-22-2010, 01:08 PM
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Yeah, he disappointed me. He just seems to have trouble pulling the trigger. I want to see him get mean and hungry! I'm glad he's okay though. Hopefully he can re-evaluate some things, because like most men that come into MMA with a wrestling backround, he has a lot of potential, skill-wise. He just needs some heart to go with it.
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08-22-2010, 01:47 PM
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I really dont think Lashley is going to make it in MMA. He is a nice guy and very humble but seems to lack the fire and intensity that he needs to make him a star. His ground and pound isnt viscious like other top HW's. Last night when he get hit and cut he seemed to freak out and didnt know what to do. You could tell he was in shock and couldnt believe somone was actually fighting back against him.
How was he that dehydrated?? Its not like he is cutting 20lbs to make HW. I really dont see Lashley continuing in mma.
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08-22-2010, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kingrobert I really dont think Lashley is going to make it in MMA. He is a nice guy and very humble but seems to lack the fire and intensity that he needs to make him a star. His ground and pound isnt viscious like other top HW's. Last night when he get hit and cut he seemed to freak out and didnt know what to do. You could tell he was in shock and couldnt believe somone was actually fighting back against him.
How was he that dehydrated?? Its not like he is cutting 20lbs to make HW. I really dont see Lashley continuing in mma. | I see your point, but I think that suffering his first loss could also cause him to see the errors in his game. Having been unbeaten it's eaten for him to have maybe got complacent with his skillset, thinking 'well, what i've used so far has done the job, so ill just carry on with more of the same'. Hopefully this loss will make him vary his game and come back stronger.
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08-22-2010, 02:09 PM
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To me it seems Lashley does not have killer instinct. Maybe he should train with Wandy. I mean, when that bell rings, there is no time to be a nice guy. It's weird that he is now failing in mma for pretty much the same reason he failed in pro-wrestling... maybe not failed, but I would say, Lashley has not reached his full potential.
Similar to prowrestling, Lashley was compared to Brock from his first appearance. Size, strength, speed, agility... Lashley appeared to be Brock's equal, however, as time went on, Lashley did not climb the ladder anywhere close the way that Brock skyrocketed. Bobby's mma career seems to be the same. The reason, seems to be the same. Brock, as a pro wrestler, was overly aggressive, sometimes mauling wrestlers, in staged matches. In mma, Brock was no different, losing his first fight in the UFC due to over aggressiveness and not being smart. Since then, Brock has become a little smarter and has used his aggressiveness to his advantage.
Lashley as a pro wrestler just didn't seem believable. He couldn't even make a mean face to save his life. The aggression wasn't there. MMA has been no different for him apparently. He is not utilizing his main strength as a wrestler to the best of his abilities. His G,P looks like a friendly sparring session, when judging from his physical attributes and athletic ability, he should very well be smashing heads. If Lashley could get a better G,P, he would really be hard to stop. If Lashley could learn a little from someone like Sonnen on G,P or Wandy on killer instinct, he would really be something dangerous. He should be focused on stand up at this point. No reason to train wrestling as much as it should be pretty much muscle memory as James Toney stated about his boxing.
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08-22-2010, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2JUBAE To me it seems Lashley does not have killer instinct. Maybe he should train with Wandy. I mean, when that bell rings, there is no time to be a nice guy. It's weird that he is now failing in mma for pretty much the same reason he failed in pro-wrestling... maybe not failed, but I would say, Lashley has not reached his full potential.
Similar to prowrestling, Lashley was compared to Brock from his first appearance. Size, strength, speed, agility... Lashley appeared to be Brock's equal, however, as time went on, Lashley did not climb the ladder anywhere close the way that Brock skyrocketed. Bobby's mma career seems to be the same. The reason, seems to be the same. Brock, as a pro wrestler, was overly aggressive, sometimes mauling wrestlers, in staged matches. In mma, Brock was no different, losing his first fight in the UFC due to over aggressiveness and not being smart. Since then, Brock has become a little smarter and has used his aggressiveness to his advantage.
Lashley as a pro wrestler just didn't seem believable. He couldn't even make a mean face to save his life. The aggression wasn't there. MMA has been no different for him apparently. He is not utilizing his main strength as a wrestler to the best of his abilities. His G,P looks like a friendly sparring session, when judging from his physical attributes and athletic ability, he should very well be smashing heads. If Lashley could get a better G,P, he would really be hard to stop. If Lashley could learn a little from someone like Sonnen on G,P or Wandy on killer instinct, he would really be something dangerous. He should be focused on stand up at this point. No reason to train wrestling as much as it should be pretty much muscle memory as James Toney stated about his boxing. | Bobby Lashley wasn't given the same push as Brock Lesnar. As a fan of Sports Entertainment im sure you already know how the push game works. Vince decides on whom he wants to be a monster.
Primary example: Hurricane Helms
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08-22-2010, 06:32 PM
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i know who hurricane helms is but didnt get the reference, so enlighten me
anyway the video of lashey the day before showed him in good health and spirits and he said he would taking the time to rehydrate so what gives? i personally am not convinced that his cardio is where is needs to be, his muscles definitely are taxing his lungs for oxygen and i wasnt aware that he had to cut much weight
so it could be not enough water but more likely it is a case of
"not enough oxygen means not enough adrenaline"
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08-22-2010, 09:46 PM
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bobby lashley is just too nice and humble for his own good. He couldn't even fake being mean in fake fighting, how do you expect him to get mean and aggressive in real fighting? I like the dude a lot but as an MMA fighter he's not like Wandy where he can turn the switch on and become a ruthless human wrecking ball.
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08-23-2010, 09:39 AM
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heres what Jim Ross had to say about Lashleys loss and batista
Bobby Lashley's First MMA Loss: "Bobby Lashley lost for the first time Saturday night by technical knockout in an ugly effort that exposed Bobby's lack of MMA technique specifically Lashley's ability to utilize submissions. Bobby did not look good, seemed to fatigue, and was too heavy/thick from this fan's observation. I still think that Lashley has a shot at a successful MMA career but he's got lots of work to do in a high level training center and to mentally commit 100% to his new vocation. He also needs to physically downsize."
"Lashley was hospitalized over night in Houston Saturday but has apparently since been released."
"If Bobby decides to have one more go at it and loses again, I would be surprised to see him remain in MMA. That's pure, individual speculation."
Batista in Strikeforce: "If Strikeforce now signs Bautista and Dave then would fight Bobby Lashley then the fight would be nothing more than merely an "attraction fight" and will obviously not be a highly skilled MMA contest between two, finely tuned and experienced MMA fighters. Notice that I did not say that the fight wouldn't garner a TV rating or create a buzz within the MMA community and in the TV world if promoted properly. I don't see it as a PPV fight but perhaps not a bad choice for CBS, if they are still in play."
"BTW...Bautista has no deal at this time with Strikeforce and as I understand it Dave is still healing from injuries from his last WWE bout even though he has apparently began some MMA training. The one thing that is obvious when it comes to MMA training is that it makes all the difference in the world what camp one trains in as it relates to how successful most fighters can become. Camps are every where but it seems that only a handful of MMA training camps produce 'money ball players.'"
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