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[Luis Cruz]

I really hate seeing stuff like this, it's one thing to say someone is overrated, that's fine that's your opinion but to call him a 'bitch'?? Seriously, unless you beat his ass yourself or the fighter acts like one then i don't see a reason for the bashing, that's sherdog forum shit and should stay there.

[djimprint]

Rashad and Hoger are the most overrated in my opinion.

Stevenson looked like crap in his last fight as well, however I've seen him fight much better in KOTC.

Leben and Swick are up and commers. To dis them as much as people on this forum do sucks. If they were anyone else who didn't happen to be on the show, the current haters would be all over their shit.

Being elite and hating what's mainstream = not cool.

Respect people for what they are in the cage. It doesn't matter whether or not they were on Cable TV for a few months trying to get a contract doing what it is they love.

No one respected Leben before he faced Jorge Rivera... everyone said that Rivera would school him. Leben KO'ed him in the first round. What's everyone's excuse going to be if he beats Silva?

Sorry.

Tired of people overdosing on Haterade

[nole]

Originally Posted by Luis Cruz

I really hate seeing stuff like this, it's one thing to say someone is overrated, that's fine that's your opinion but to call him a 'bitch'?? Seriously, unless you beat his ass yourself or the fighter acts like one then i don't see a reason for the bashing, that's sherdog forum shit and should stay there.

he is a bitch compared to his comp in my eyes and i will call him a bitch if i want, go cry somewhere else.

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by WandAXE

The most overrated TUF fighter of all time would have to be Mike Swick in my mind. Who and what has he done for people to think he is just this great fighter.

having a record of 9-1 and finishing all ,but 2 of your opponents in the 1st round to me is enough to say your a prettygood fighter.

[NinjaShogunRua]

Originally Posted by Luis Cruz

I really hate seeing stuff like this, it's one thing to say someone is overrated, that's fine that's your opinion but to call him a 'bitch'?? Seriously, unless you beat his ass yourself or the fighter acts like one then i don't see a reason for the bashing, that's sherdog forum shit and should stay there.

I agree with you Cruz. A bunch of keyboard warriors disrespecting guys that fight for a living. I can see not liking a fighter for this and that reason, but fighter bashing is straight up lame, and it's one of the main reasons we won't see many if any pro fighters post on this forum.

[nole]

that is how fighters talk about each other and i do train and fight in terrell's gym and that is how we all talk. I didnt know this forum was so sensitive. He is not a good fighter and i think he fights like a girl and i think luke was a better fighter and should have won TUF. Look how joe looked in his first fight, weak as hell.

[Luis Cruz]

Trust me it won't be me going anywhere and it's not crying it's called respect. The fact that you claim to train, fight, and talk like that is even worse, since fighters have a respect for one another. How many pro fights have you had? And if any what's your name so we can find you on sherdog, because surely someone so tough isn't afraid to hide their identity and maybe a fight with you and Joe can happen but if you lose what does that make you? Obviously you know nothing of Stevenson outside of TUF, go watch some videos and educate yourself on someone before calling them a bitch off of one or two fights.

[nole]

im not saying im a pro fighter. Im 23 single parent with a son to feed and dont have time to dedicate myself like joe. I just train and fight when i get the time to train for it. Im not disrespecting him compared to me he is a better fighter but im saying for his level he is not very good. But your right he made and im stuck being a dad. Me saying he is a bitch is just how i talk not a personal attack, its just my bad mouth sicilian blood coming out. But thats not true all fighters dont respect each other there is plenty of hate

[Luis Cruz]

well then that just comes out real bad calling someone a 'bitch'. i don't always defend people but i hate seeing cool people get bahsed like that for no reason. i talk to joe and he's cool as hell, nothing bad to say about anyone. that would be like me saying about terrell that he's a 'bitch' without really knowing him aside from a couple fights, while you would know him a lot better and say he's a great guy and very friendly. but you should go watch some gladiator challenges and kotc where he fought a lot and you'll see how good he is. i picked him to win tuf 2 in the beginning for a reason while everyone rode gurgel. i think you're also forgetting or maybe don't know that stevenson is a 155lbs fighter not 170lbs so you'll see a way better stevenson now.

[nole]

well if thats your boy i respect that you stood up for him cause i would do the same for tyson and terrell. I wasnt attacking him personal and i apologize. I will check him out but i thought luke should of won TUF.