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10-02-2010, 09:23 AM
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Probably his way of telling GSP to finish fights.
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10-02-2010, 09:42 AM
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danas p4p sucks. Aldo has looked great but i think he needs to fight some more top tier fighters. IMO Manvil isnt top of the line. Either way, terrible list dana
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10-02-2010, 09:50 AM
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Well Dana doesn't bother listing other organizations fighters, because he believes that the best fighters are in his organization (and his organization does have the deepest talent pool imo). Hes the president, if any other organization actually had some sense, then their president would think that their organization is the best.
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10-02-2010, 11:33 AM
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Well, its too bad for Dana that he doesn't know shit about fighting...and Frankie Edgar isn't even close to number 2, that is an absolute joke. Jose Aldo has been way more impressive, he actually finishes top contenders.
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10-02-2010, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzrocks5285 i know anderson won his last fight but when was the last time you saw GSP dominated like that? from matt serra? plus what he's done since then has more than made up for it. GSP would destroy anderson like sonnen did with his wrestling & would probably sub him | sonenn is a better wrestler then gsp but i agree he would definetly beat anderson. and also when was the last time aldo got dominated like that. never.
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10-02-2010, 12:38 PM
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Damnit Dana sounds like a typical retard from Sherdog.
How does he says that Edgar is No. 2 P4p in the world??? LMFAO what kind of bad joke is that??? Frankie Edgar is in the best of cases No. 9 or 10, no way he is No. 2
Also, a P4P Top 3 fighter should finish his fights, Of his last 10 victories, 8 were by desicion. They guy cant finish fights, how in the hell he is a P4P No. 2?
About Anderson Silva, is funny how one day dana says that he is embarrased by the fights of Anderson and the next day he defends him and says only good things about it.
Anderson silva did a horrible performance in April, he got his ass kicked for 4 and a half rounds in August, yes he won, but how with those performnaces he is the P4P best fighter in the world??? HOOOOW?????????? Of his last 5 bouts: Horrible performnace against Cote, Horrible performance against Leites, Great performance against Forrest, horrible against maia and horrible against Sonnen. And that is the P4P best fighter?? Yeah sure, keep dreaming Dana idiot.
Now, he is saying Anderson defeated Forrest Griffin, who defeated Shogun.mmmm it sounds to me like he using some kind of MMA Math, and even a stupid fan of sherdog eventually learns that MMA Math is complete bullshit. Also we all know that Shogun would fuck up Griffin in a rematch.
I understand that he is a promoter and all that, but he should think better what to say, its embarrasing that the president of the biggest MMA organization in the world says those moronic statements.
He wont say that fedor is a Top 3 P4P (despite that Fedor is indeed a real legit P4P top 3 fighter) but at least he should give preference to GSP, Jose Aldo (Not in UFC, but in WEC, he is Zuffa guy) and only then maybe Anderson Silva.
My god, if brock beats Cain, he will say that the new list of P4p is Anderson Silva, Frankie Edgar and Brock Lesnar. And if Cain beats lesnar he will include Cain in the list aswell, damn, its incredible how retarded he is.
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10-02-2010, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pashak My god, if brock beats Cain, he will say that the new list of P4p is Anderson Silva, Frankie Edgar and Brock Lesnar. And if Cain beats lesnar he will include Cain in the list aswell, damn, its incredible how retarded he is. | Agree with what you're saying in your overall post but I would also include Cain in the top p4p if he beats Brock. He has overcome a lot in terms of size and reach in his last few fights, and once again with Brock. He has been beating people impressively as well and uses a wide range of skills. I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be included and for me, he would easily go above a lot of fighters, including Frankie.
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10-02-2010, 12:56 PM
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imo Jose is top 5 just because of how dominant he has been over some pretty damn good featherweights
but no way in hell is Frankie Edgard # 2. I'm surprised Dana wasn't trying to put Brock in his top 3, spouting off some b.s. like "He beat Randy Couture, the best fighter in history, and Frank Mir, who is also pretty amazing, then beat the undefeated Monster Shane Carwin"
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10-02-2010, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dbader08 Well, its too bad for Dana that he doesn't know shit about fighting...and Frankie Edgar isn't even close to number 2, that is an absolute joke. Jose Aldo has been way more impressive, he actually finishes top contenders. | Well, I think you're half right.
To keep things in perspective...in no way, no form is Edgar even close to being top 5 pound for pound. But, that being said, beating Penn for 5 rounds is a bigger accomplishment than finishing Mike Brown. I'm not going to bother including Gamburyan and Swanson in a list, as they're not top 10 FW's, regardless of how Zuffa wants to spin things. Yes, they were contenders for the belt, but no, they weren't top ranked FW's. Brown and Faber are the only top 10 FW's Jose has faced.
Fanboys and Pennhaters will blow Edgar's accomplishments waaaaay the hell out of proportion--he's got at least two decisions on his resume that I firmly believe he lost--but he's still not a chump. He's fighting guys that are bigger than him, and he's adapting as a fighter. If he gets past Gray convincingly, I'll rank him on the fringes of top 5, whether he finishes Maynard or not. Finishing fights doesn't necessarily mean shit for p4p, but winning them convincingly and overcoming size disadvantages via skill sets does, and Edgar has the potential to do exactly that.
But yeah...people are jumping on bandwagons without really seeing what they think they're looking at.
So yes...Edgar isn't close to 2--not even close to top 5, really--but Aldo hasn't been that much more impressive than he has, simply by beating up on guys like Cub and Manny.
Oh...and anyone who ever puts lesnar anywhere near top 10 has their head up their ass. Same for Fitch and Maynard...not only do all three use size advantages to overcome smaller foes, they're not even close to being well rounded or a threat anywhere but grappling...unless they have the afore-mentioned size advantage...and even then, you've got guys like Couture schooling lesnar grappling, and giving up 40-50lbs to do it.
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10-02-2010, 03:28 PM
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To me, the bigger issue is why do people refuse to keep Anderson @ #1 P4P? Outside of Fedor (who just lost, and of course can't be #1 because of it) there is no one even worthy to challenge Anderson for his title. NOBODY has been as dominant as long as he has outside of Fedor, people trying to put Aldo, GSP, Edgar and whoever ahead of Anderson are showing their bias against him.
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