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10-04-2010, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by killakem1 yea missed that one. but one out of 30 isnt saying much. | You are right, he hasnt faced anyone but him twice, BUT NOONE ELSE WAS CLOSE TO HIS LEVEL OR DESERVING OF A REMATCH (in the UFC). He had never even gone past the 2nd round until Cote, and he let that happen in that fight because he didnt feel like engaging at all. You cant say thalis Leatis was desrving of a rematch after that fight, and neither was MIA. Noone but Chael so far had even come close to beating silva in the cage, and he still got decisively finished.
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10-04-2010, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by killakem1 missed 1 outta 30 and i reposted and admitted my wrong. you cant deny that after that fight he has found a way to deem an opponent not worthy. mia,hendo,nate, and chael all werent worthy. | Mia wasn't worthy, he had just been knocked TFO by Nate Marquardt. I dont see how you loose a fight and still move ahead in the rankings....hendo hadnt had a fight at 185 since silva and his wins were over Phalares in his second UFC fight ever, Rich Franklin at 205, and Bisbing who isnt even In the top of the division. I would not call those wins deserving of a rematch, thats like saying Randy Cotoure deserves a title shot now....Also, I specifically remember Silva saying that he was happy chael stepped up to the plate to fight him when the fight was first announced.
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10-04-2010, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CtGreat You are right, he hasnt faced anyone but him twice, BUT NOONE ELSE WAS CLOSE TO HIS LEVEL OR DESERVING OF A REMATCH (in the UFC). He had never even gone past the 2nd round until Cote, and he let that happen in that fight because he didnt feel like engaging at all. You cant say thalis Leatis was desrving of a rematch after that fight, and neither was MIA. Noone but Chael so far had even come close to beating silva in the cage, and he still got decisively finished. | since when do fighters get to claim that an opponent isnt worthy of a rematch or match? only since a.silva came along i guess. promotions have match makers for a reason and as a fighter you need to take the matches regardless. if you beat them once then you can beat them again right? i dont think anderson believes this considering he has only fought 1 rematch out of 31 fights. i believe he believes that they will come with a different approach and give him more trouble. not saying they will win but he doesnt want to give them the benefit and a chance. Quote:
Originally Posted by CtGreat Mia wasn't worthy, he had just been knocked TFO by Nate Marquardt. I dont see how you loose a fight and still move ahead in the rankings....hendo hadnt had a fight at 185 since silva and his wins were over Phalares in his second UFC fight ever, Rich Franklin at 205, and Bisbing who isnt even In the top of the division. I would not call those wins deserving of a rematch, thats like saying Randy Cotoure deserves a title shot now....Also, I specifically remember Silva saying that he was happy chael stepped up to the plate to fight him when the fight was first announced. | actually mia wasnt comming off a loss. he had just won a ud over dan miller. and your right about hendo. however dana and joe silva deemed him worthy and thats all that should matter. also at the time hendo was the only threat to a.silva having giving him his only lost round in the ufc.
and who cares that it was phalares 2nd fight in the ufc it was 10th overall mma match and comming in with a 6 fight win streak
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10-04-2010, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by killakem1 since when do fighters get to claim that an opponent isnt worthy of a rematch or match? only since a.silva came along i guess. promotions have match makers for a reason and as a fighter you need to take the matches regardless. if you beat them once then you can beat them again right? i dont think anderson believes this considering he has only fought 1 rematch out of 31 fights. i believe he believes that they will come with a different approach and give him more trouble. not saying they will win but he doesnt want to give them the benefit and a chance. | I get that you dont like silva, but you dont honestly believe that anyone he has faced in the ufc besides Franklin was/is deserving of a rematch do you? If nate beats Okami then he should get his rematch because he would have EARNED it. Noone that Silva has beat has earned it based off their wins, not even chael (in my eyes, since i know you are a chael fan). Also yea, i forgot that he beat dan miller, but he was also coming off of a loss
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10-04-2010, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CtGreat I get that you dont like silva, but you dont honestly believe that anyone he has faced in the ufc besides Franklin was/is deserving of a rematch do you? If nate beats Okami then he should get his rematch because he would have EARNED it. Noone that Silva has beat has earned it based off their wins, not even chael (in my eyes, since i know you are a chael fan). Also yea, i forgot that he beat dan miller, but he was also coming off of a loss | your right i dont like a.silva but not for the fact of who hes beat or none of that matter. i think he is a very dangerous and talented fighter. i dont like him because of his attitude towards mma.
and so okami has and still will play the role of gatekeeper since franklin has got his rematch after wins over okami and jason macdonald. and like you said that if nate beats him he deserves a rematch. nate got his first match on a 5 fight win streak with the only notable wins comming from dean lister and joe doerkson. is that really worthy. at that point in time i actually like a.silva because he didnt deem opponents not worthy at the time. he has a job and his boss puts jobs in front of him and now days he deems them not worthy.
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10-04-2010, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by killakem1 your right i dont like a.silva but not for the fact of who hes beat or none of that matter. i think he is a very dangerous and talented fighter. i dont like him because of his attitude towards mma.
and so okami has and still will play the role of gatekeeper since franklin has got his rematch after wins over okami and jason macdonald. and like you said that if nate beats him he deserves a rematch. nate got his first match on a 5 fight win streak with the only notable wins comming from dean lister and joe doerkson. is that really worthy. at that point in time i actually like a.silva because he didnt deem opponents not worthy at the time. he has a job and his boss puts jobs in front of him and now days he deems them not worthy. | Has Silva ever said that people werent worthy? Or was it Ed Sores? I can only remember silva saying that chael didnt deserve a rematch in the link in this topic. Other than that, I cant recall a single direct quote from silva; and ive seen just about every interview hes ever done lol (exaggeration but almost true).
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10-04-2010, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FarBeyndDrvn I really wish this magical place existed where I got everything my way and the only opinions I had to read were ones that pertained to my shallow scope of views and thoughts. | I am not sure you understood my post. I like different opinions, in fact if everyone agreed with me the forums wouldn’t even be worth reading. It’s the dribble that “SOME” of the Chael fans spew that I find a bit annoying, for example killakem1’s posts in this thread.
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Originally Posted by FarBeyndDrvn Regardless of the roid accusations, I would take juiced up Sonnen comments over pretentious Silva remarks any day of any week. At the very least, they're articulate, comical, and from the hip. Oh, and they aren't excuses. | You forgot homophobic, culturally insensitive, and boarder line racist. Quote:
Originally Posted by FarBeyndDrvn But the captions on this video are all wrong. When translated in Ed Soares, they are: "Anderson is very happy with his performance in his fight against Chael. He wants to thank Sonnen for accepting the fight and for putting on a great show. He wants to thank all the American fans for coming out to watch him. He appreciates their support and can't wait to perform in front of them again." | Again, good try at being clever.
P.S. Fuck you for calling my views and thoughts shallow.
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10-04-2010, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CtGreat Has Silva ever said that people werent worthy? Or was it Ed Sores? I can only remember silva saying that chael didnt deserve a rematch in the link in this topic. Other than that, I cant recall a single direct quote from silva; and ive seen just about every interview hes ever done lol (exaggeration but almost true). | have you ever heard anderson do an interview besides this one? ive heard maybe 2. yes soars does most of the talking but he still presents the challenges to a.silva. maybe soars gets in a.silvas head but still as a champ/fighter you should step up to bat and do your job
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10-04-2010, 05:06 PM
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I personally Thank Baby Jesus every day and night for Anderson Silva, he pisses off the kind of fans I dislike the most. IMO he's a true Martial Artist, with a twist of Ali and Bruce Lee. If Fedor retires, Anderson could go down as the GOAT in MMA. I just don't see how someone can be more upset with how Anderson whoops someone's ass in the cage and be a fan of someone who talks about a cancer survivor getting cancer from doping (something apparently he was doing himself). So continue the hate, it makes Anderson's legacy grow. I want Anderson to dominate till he retires.
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10-04-2010, 05:08 PM
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Sonnen lost...Silva won...get over it!
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