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10-05-2010, 01:29 PM
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Aldo: Loss of first round was part of a strategy
Monday 04th of October 2010 01:18 PM
By Guilherme Cruz
José Aldo taught another lesson on WEC’s cage last night in Colorado, on the United States. Being the favorite against Manny Gamburyan (on the betting market his favoritism was even bigger than Georges St. Pierre, Anderson Silva and Fedor Emelianenko on their last fights), the featherweight of the team Nova União had a cautious posture on the first round, mapping the perfect way to knock Gamburyuan out on the following round.
“It was all according to a tactic… We’ve set a strategy in Brazil and we trained according to it. I was aware of everything, with a good mind, and thanks God I was able to use my game plan, seeing his strong points and weaknesses to finish the fight. I had seen what kind of dangerous he could offer me so I took a shortcut to end the fight”, commented the champion on the press conference after the show, without caring about the boos he got in the end of the first round. “The crowd always wants lot of action, but I knew that, when it was the right moment, they would applaud me in the end”.
In fact, José brought a great finale for an exciting night. With eight wins on WEC, being seven by knockout, the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt still thinks about bigger challenges, like the possibility of changing to a heavier division and making his debut on UFC. “Just like Manny earned his chance, others will come. I’m a champion and also an employee, I don’t ever choose my opponents. WEC tells me to fight against a guy and I follow the orders”, concluded.
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10-05-2010, 05:59 PM
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He won the first round didn't he? I like how he threw that uppercut when he knew he was going to get shot on, more people should do that to wrestlers but then I guess that leaves you open for a fake take down overhead right KO if your not careful.
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10-05-2010, 06:04 PM
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It's a common tactic for more physically talented fighters to wait and see what their opponent is offering. Often times this costs them the first round and maybe sometimes the fight but on the rare occasion we get to see destruction like Aldo-Gamburyan or my favorite Evans-Liddell.
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10-05-2010, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by YukonJordan It's a common tactic for more physically talented fighters to wait and see what their opponent is offering. Often times this costs them the first round and maybe sometimes the fight but on the rare occasion we get to see destruction like Aldo-Gamburyan or my favorite Evans-Liddell. | I disagree 100%. First off it is straight up retarded to give the 1st round to your opponent in a 3 round fight when anything can happen in MMA. Secondly its not a common tactic, its an excuse fighters with big egos make to justify a crappy round. This isn't Ali vs Foreman; there are no 12 rounds. There is not much room for a feeling out process unless you call the first 90 seconds of a MMA fight a feeling out process.
Aldo's mental weaknesses are already showing just by how he talks in interviews lately and I don't care if everyone on here disagrees with me. Hes not top 15 P4P, he is a talented fighter with miles of road still ahead of him and he is already talking in ways that Fedor / GSP / A Silva NEVER do but have earned the right to if they so choose. I was a big Aldo fan and I still enjoy his fights but I am going to stay clear of the bandwagon before it incinerates, just like I did with Machida.
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10-05-2010, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by v3xi First off it is straight up retarded to give the 1st round to your opponent in a 3 round fight when anything can happen in MMA. | 5 rounds in a title fight. Quote:
Originally Posted by v3xi Hes not top 15 P4P, he is a talented fighter with miles of road still ahead of him and he is already talking in ways that Fedor / GSP / A Silva NEVER do but have earned the right to if they so choose. I was a big Aldo fan and I still enjoy his fights but I am going to stay clear of the bandwagon before it incinerates, just like I did with Machida. | Who else would he have to beat at his weight for him to impress you and "deserve" to talk like a p4p best? You do know that Machida is still considered top 10 p4p right? I wouldn't call that incineration.
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10-06-2010, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bottlerocks 5 rounds in a title fight.
Who else would he have to beat at his weight for him to impress you and "deserve" to talk like a p4p best? You do know that Machida is still considered top 10 p4p right? I wouldn't call that incineration. | Think he was talking about the Evans-Liddell comment and I agree with it. As for Aldo its way too early for the P4P talk just ask Faber and Torres both were on that stupid list a year or so ago.
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10-06-2010, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by v3xi I disagree 100%. First off it is straight up retarded to give the 1st round to your opponent in a 3 round fight when anything can happen in MMA. Secondly its not a common tactic, its an excuse fighters with big egos make to justify a crappy round. This isn't Ali vs Foreman; there are no 12 rounds. There is not much room for a feeling out process unless you call the first 90 seconds of a MMA fight a feeling out process.
Aldo's mental weaknesses are already showing just by how he talks in interviews lately and I don't care if everyone on here disagrees with me. Hes not top 15 P4P, he is a talented fighter with miles of road still ahead of him and he is already talking in ways that Fedor / GSP / A Silva NEVER do but have earned the right to if they so choose. I was a big Aldo fan and I still enjoy his fights but I am going to stay clear of the bandwagon before it incinerates, just like I did with Machida. | I do agree with your fisrt paragraph, but I completly disagree with your P4P view. How in gods name is Aldo not a top 15 P4P fighter? I mean I can understand not a top five, but how can you possibly say he's not a top 15?? It just makes no sense what so ever in any way. Just because you don't like how's he's becoming cocky shouldn't take away from his achievements. Obviously he's not there with GSP, Fedor, or Silva yet, but he's well on his way. You need to explain yourself better before saying something crazy like that.
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10-06-2010, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by v3xi He won the first round didn't he? I like how he threw that uppercut when he knew he was going to get shot on, more people should do that to wrestlers but then I guess that leaves you open for a fake take down overhead right KO if your not careful. | That's why boxing teaches you to cover with the left when you throw the right and vice versa Quote:
Originally Posted by v3xi I disagree 100%. First off it is straight up retarded to give the 1st round to your opponent in a 3 round fight when anything can happen in MMA. Secondly its not a common tactic, its an excuse fighters with big egos make to justify a crappy round. This isn't Ali vs Foreman; there are no 12 rounds. There is not much room for a feeling out process unless you call the first 90 seconds of a MMA fight a feeling out process.
Aldo's mental weaknesses are already showing just by how he talks in interviews lately and I don't care if everyone on here disagrees with me. Hes not top 15 P4P, he is a talented fighter with miles of road still ahead of him and he is already talking in ways that Fedor / GSP / A Silva NEVER do but have earned the right to if they so choose. I was a big Aldo fan and I still enjoy his fights but I am going to stay clear of the bandwagon before it incinerates, just like I did with Machida. | There are a ton of fighters that use the 1st round as a feeling out round in 5 round fights. It's not necessarily "giving" the round away. They may still end up winning the round, but they are only feeling out the other fighter. Fighters do this all of the time.
What "mental weakness" have you noticed in his interviews? The only weakness I have seen from him is the division he fights in.
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10-06-2010, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by v3xi
Aldo's mental weaknesses are already showing just by how he talks in interviews lately and I don't care if everyone on here disagrees with me. Hes not top 15 P4P, he is a talented fighter with miles of road still ahead of him and he is already talking in ways that Fedor / GSP / A Silva NEVER do but have earned the right to if they so choose. I was a big Aldo fan and I still enjoy his fights but I am going to stay clear of the bandwagon before it incinerates, just like I did with Machida. | Are you high????? Not top 15???? Your statement is batshit crazy!!!!!!!!
Aldo is in my top 5 P4P
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10-06-2010, 07:39 PM
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My mistake, for some reason I forgot it was a 5 round fight so it is legitimate that he set him up for round 2 just like A Silva set up Chael in round 4 and sub'd him in round 5. If Aldo claimed this in a 3 round fight it would be BS and I stand by that even though it wasn't the case. Oops.
I don't think WEC has that deep of a field to test Aldo so I can't put him in the P4P rankings. Faber is kind of the Rich Franklin / Liddel catagory of great fighters that are getting surpassed by the new smarter / athletic fighters that are coming into MMA now that you can make some decent money and gain some notoriety. Quote: |
Just because you don't like how's he's becoming cocky shouldn't take away from his achievements.
| His attitude and ability have nothing to do with each other. I question his "achievements" at this point in his career. I think he has potential and we all know he is an exciting fighter in the #1 or #2 camp in MMA but I just don't think he has fought solid enough competition to have him in P4P discussion. No one knew his name a year ago and now hes top 5 P4P apparently, that should tell you something right there.
WEC weight classes are still as deep as a mud puddle and like I said, Aldo is still a kid with a lot to learn. I can see him being the next Anderson but calling that right now is just jumping the gun too early.
If you guys want to talk about Brazilian knockout artists who should be higher on P4P rankings lets talk about JDS instead.
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