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06-22-2006, 09:57 AM
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| Do you think Brock Lesnor well in the UFC
Maybe, he's big, he's strong, he's quick but can he fight? I really want to see how he does. |
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06-22-2006, 10:12 AM
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i REALLY doubt he can win.
is he heavyweight?
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06-22-2006, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Intellectual i REALLY doubt he can win.
is he heavyweight? | I think so, he should be. |
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06-22-2006, 10:17 AM
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he has a real solid wrestling back ground so i think he should do well ,but i also thought he'd do well in football and we all saw how that went.
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06-22-2006, 10:21 AM
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lesnor is an entertainer...not a fighter.
he uses steroids right?
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06-22-2006, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Intellectual lesnor is an entertainer...not a fighter.
he uses steroids right? | So do alot of other fighters, but I don't think he uses steroids. |
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06-22-2006, 11:29 AM
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I think Brock Lesnar could put up a good fight for a lot of the lower ranked HW's in the UFC... guys like Kevin Jordan, Branden Lee Hinkle, Brad Imes, Gabriel Gonzaga, Fabiano Scherner. That doesn't say anything good about Lesnar's skills though.
If I was the bookie, I'd set up Lesnar vs. some middle ranked HW... Assuerio Silva, Buentello, or Eilers. I think Pe De Pano might be a good match up too, but I'd bet on Cruz, not Lesnar.
Guys like Arlovski, Mir, Monson and Sylvia would annihilate Lesnar, who just doesn't have the striking technique or speed. Lesnar outwrestle Mir or Monson? Yeah right.
I can picture it in my head right now. Lesnar goes in on one of the top-ranked HW's, and tries to pick him up for the bodyslam. What happens? Lesnar gets choked out. Guillotine. End of Lesnar's MMA career. I think Goldberg stands a better chance, quite honest.
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06-22-2006, 01:45 PM
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When Brock was with the WWE he was around 280-300lbs.
He was an NCAA wrestling champion, so he certainly can handle himself in that respect....can he take a punch? He landed on his head after missing a moonsault from about 6 ft in the air with 300 pounds of momentum, and didn't knock himself out...so I'm guessing he can take a punch alright, but I honestly don't see him having the striking capabilities, or the speed or the submission knowledge or defence to be factor.......
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06-22-2006, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jwistead I think Brock Lesnar could put up a good fight for a lot of the lower ranked HW's in the UFC... guys like Kevin Jordan, Branden Lee Hinkle, Brad Imes, Gabriel Gonzaga, Fabiano Scherner. That doesn't say anything good about Lesnar's skills though.
If I was the bookie, I'd set up Lesnar vs. some middle ranked HW... Assuerio Silva, Buentello, or Eilers. I think Pe De Pano might be a good match up too, but I'd bet on Cruz, not Lesnar.
Guys like Arlovski, Mir, Monson and Sylvia would annihilate Lesnar, who just doesn't have the striking technique or speed. Lesnar outwrestle Mir or Monson? Yeah right.
I can picture it in my head right now. Lesnar goes in on one of the top-ranked HW's, and tries to pick him up for the bodyslam. What happens? Lesnar gets choked out. Guillotine. End of Lesnar's MMA career. I think Goldberg stands a better chance, quite honest. | Yeah Lesnar could get guillotined, but so did Silva against Vera at UFC 60. What are you basing your "Goldberg stands a better chance" argument? Goldberg did play in the NFL, but Lesnar was the NCAA heavyweight wrestling champion, which I think gives him an edge as far as ultimate fighting goes. I haven't seen Lesnar fight outside of a WWE ring, as I'm not totally sure he ever has so to assume he doesn't have any striking technique or speed is unfounded, IMO.
If Lesnar had some training, Brad Imes wouldn't stand a chance against him. I agree that against an Arlovski he would get worked. I don't think a ton of people could "out wrestle" him as bad as you implied, get him in a submission since he knows zero submission defenses? Most definitely. But just out-wrestle him badly? I don't know how often that would happen.
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06-22-2006, 02:43 PM
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I seriously doubt many can out wrestle him. He was 2x ncaa wrestling champ at minnesota. He is not on steroids, same size now as he was back then. They nick named him brock the rock because of his size. He is overly atheltic for his size, and really fast, he ran a 4.6 in the 40 for the NFL, which is blazing for a d-tackle, thats jerry rice speed.
Now as far as mma goes. If he got on a good wrestler based team such as team quest or punishment, and trained for like a year, he could potentially be extremely dominant. His chin is rock solid, if you didnt see him take essentially a 10 foot nose dive on his head and get up to finish the match, then you missed out. So for brock to be able to compete with the mir,monson,sylvia,arvlovsky's of the UFC your looking at a 2-3 year period of training.
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