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10-18-2010, 08:59 AM
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| That Settles It: Cheick Kongo Is the Dirtiest Fighter in the UFC http://www.cagepotato.com/settles-it...st-fighter-ufc 
(One of the few moments on Saturday when Travis Browne wasn't in danger of getting his nuts demolished. Photo courtesy of MMAFighting.com) Quote:
Though many UFC fighters have gotten bad reputations for everything from eye-poking to greasing, nobody's as consistently rotten as heavyweight Cheick Kongo, who put on another notorious performance against Travis Browne at UFC 120. Kongo started things off in the second round by launching his trademark strike — a knee to the balls, straight up the middle — and wound up costing himself the victory in the third frame when he continued to grab Browne's shorts despite warnings from the ref; the resulting point-deduction led to a unanimous 28-28 judges' decision. At this point, it's pretty much indisputable that Kongo is the dirtiest fighter currently on the UFC roster. Who could forget his other career highlights...
vs. Paul Buentello at UFC Live: Vera vs. Jones: After being warned by Herb Dean for shots to the back of the head and 12-to-6 elbows in the second round, Kongo is finally deducted a point for kneeing Buentello in the head while Buentello was down. Later in the round, Kongo connects with another knee to his downed opponent's dome, though Dean brushes it off, saying Buentello was trying to draw the foul.
vs. Mostapha Al Turk at UFC 92: Al Turk catches Kongo in the junk with a knee. Kongo takes a minute to collect himself, then clinches with Al Turk and returns the favor, very much intentionally.
vs. Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic at UFC 75: The fight that launched "Cup Check Kongo"'s dirty-fighter legend. Kongo lands four separate knees to Cro Cop's balls, and manages to avoid any point-deductions. In a post-fight interview with Fighters Only, Kongo said "The last knee in the balls wasn’t an accident because he was complaining about different knees in his balls but they were inside his legs. And that upset me.”
Kongo hasn't earned the distinction of having two points deducted in the same fight, and he doesn't include himself in the 50% of MMA fighters who use steroids, but when it comes to lifetime body of work, Kongo is chasing Gilbert Yvel for the title of Dirtiest Fighter Ever.
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10-18-2010, 09:24 AM
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"Cup Check Kongo" is the greatest nickname ever.
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10-18-2010, 09:25 AM
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yeah I'm done caring about Kongo fights.
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10-18-2010, 09:35 AM
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Status: Pasha Cigano Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Very far Posts: 8,296
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I think Dana will give him a fight against somebody very strong and hope that Kongo loses so he can cut him.
Or maybe he will cut him soon saying that he did not have good results lately and also using the "he is a dirty fighter" argument. (BTW Dana is not happy that Kongo revealed that 50% or more UFC fighters are on roids).
I think Kongo´s days in UFC are counted.
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10-18-2010, 09:56 AM
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Do you guys think the ref should have taken ANOTHER point away from Kongo for holding onto the shorts?
I don't blame the ref for not deducting a second point, because it's a pretty ambiguous situation, and he probably doesn't want to be inject himself into the fight to such a large degree. Still, the foul was clearly being repeated at will.
Secondly, as a judge, do you tink seeing a fighter continuously break the rules should factor into your score. In other words, should any of the judges given Kongo that tird round, considering he was holding onto the shorts over and over.
I can see it both ways, because Kongo was already penalized a point for the foul, so if you take into account on juding the round ON TOP of the point deduction, you're basically counting it twice. Still, how do you say Kongo won that round when he was blatantly cheating the whole time?
What does everyone think?
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10-18-2010, 10:00 AM
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I was a little suprised in the fight when he got the point deduction, he then repeatedly grabbed the shorts after. The ref warned and warned and even pulled kongo's hand off after the point deduction. He should have had another point deduction. IMO once a point deduction is given the ref cannot back-track to warning again and again the only action is a second point deduction. Kongo won't be around much longer
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10-18-2010, 10:01 AM
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To my understanding, when you break a rule after a warning (either in the back room before the fight or in the cage) you are to be deducted a point. Well if you keep breaking the rules why wouldn't they keep taking points away. It's like well, they took a point away because I did (x) so now I'll just keep doing (x) and getting away with it because I know they won't take another point away. If you break a rule and are warned and then get a point taken away and STILL do it, you should have another point taken away or DQ'd.
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10-18-2010, 10:02 AM
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I would like to see Kongo off of the roster. I BTW think that the draw was BS. Kongo was not winning that fight.
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10-18-2010, 10:12 AM
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To me Cheick is not a top rung UFC fighter. I don't have a problem with the old u hit me in the balls I get you in the balls . Now the I am not doing so good in the fight so I going to try and neuter in the cage or pull your pants down to so you can't fight is BS .
I think it’s time for him to be cut and try and work his way back
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10-18-2010, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SWIFTboy Do you guys think the ref should have taken ANOTHER point away from Kongo for holding onto the shorts?
I don't blame the ref for not deducting a second point, because it's a pretty ambiguous situation, and he probably doesn't want to be inject himself into the fight to such a large degree. Still, the foul was clearly being repeated at will. | I think he should have been dq'ed. He was warned and continued doing it over and over and over. He was clearly aware of where the ref was and did it so that the ref couldn't see him. He's a dirty cheat and Dana needs to give him Dos Santos so that after that fight, we will hear no more of Kongo.
What gets me is what was the point in taking a point? It seemed useless since he did it again and again after the point was deducted. Does that mean that if you are warned and have a point taken away for breaking a rule, you can do it all you want? Is there a double jeopardy rule in mma that i am unaware of?
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