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10-18-2010, 08:59 PM
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By MATT MOLGAARD
MMANEWS.COM Staff Writer
Carlos Condit has been riding the rollercoaster of success lately. Hell, he’s been on the ‘coaster for four and a half years. In that time he’s put together 11 victories against a lone defeat (at the hands of Martin Kampmann). And I’d be willing to bet a god 80% of people who watched that Kampmann fight scored it for Condit, I know I did.
Regardless, the man’s proven his worth for just about every major promotion in existence. He’s enjoyed great success in Pancrase, tore a hole through the Rumble On The Rock promotion (prior to meeting Jake Shields), won and defended the WEC welterweight title, and now he’s put together three back-to-back wins inside the UFC’s octagon.
If that’s not putting in work, I don’t know what is.
So, now that Condit has blown through another highly regarded opponent, who should be chosen to challenge the New Mexico native? I’ve got a handful of ideas…
Martin Kampmann:
It’s too bad Kampmann and Jake Shields are tied up, because they’ll both make for great bouts with Condit, and they’re both going to make this list. The first time Condit and Kampmann fought, it was a back and forth war that saw both men put in danger. The glaring difference in the fight was the aggression of Condit, who exploded on multiple occasions, inflicting significant damage, clearly trying to finish the fight. What should have been a Carlos Condit decision victory went the wrong way, and it’s just about time for Condit to get that W back.
Chris Lytle:
Chris Lytle has a well rounded enough game to give any opponent fits, even elite competition. A clash between Condit and Lytle would be nothing short of explosive, as Lytle’s hands may be a bit sharper, while Condit’s Jiu Jitsu just a tad bit more precise. The two would likely nullify each other, but as opposed to a boring chess match, we’d probably be in for a giant ball of dust and ruckus. Who exists the haze the winner is any man’s guess.
Ben Askren:
Ben may not fight for the UFC, but he’d make for a damn interesting bout with Condit just the same. Askren’s technical wrestling abilities will pose all kinds of threats for Condit, but Condit’s explosive guard and polished Jiu Jitsu game could easily lead to a submission victory. Now, should Condit find a way to stuff Ben’s takedown’s, it’s The Natural Born Killer all the way.
Nick Diaz:
If you want to see two warriors who refuse to quit, can box well, and possess lethal submission games fight each other, you stick these two in a cage. Nick Diaz is a nightmare for any man with average (or below) wrestling. His hands never stop moving, and his ground game is about as slick as it comes at 170 pounds. Condit is a mirror image of Diaz, but has the tendency to explode more often, and mix his strikes up a bit better. Both men have near-unbreakable chins, and both are performing at their peak right now. This is a match made in Heaven.
Jake Shields:
These two fought back in 2006 at Rumble on the Rock 9. The bout was closely contested, but Shields did enough to earn a unanimous decision victory. Over the last four plus years, these two have both improved leaps and bounds, and both added well regarded scalps to their collection. It’s most likely that should Shields defeat Martin Kampmann at UFC 121, he’ll be tossed into the cage with Georges St. Pierre (assuming he still has the title). However, should some odd occurrence unfold and Shields lose, or not find himself in line to fight GSP, this is a rematch that must happen. A win for Shields proves the first bout was no fluke and he’s worthy of the ranking he totes. A win for Condit immediately launches him into the top 5 of the division, and lines him up as a serious contender for the title.
Exactly what will happen by the time Condit fights again is as much a mystery as who Condit’s next opponent will be. One way or the other, I’m pulling for another A-list foe; this kid deserves it.
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10-18-2010, 09:29 PM
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10-18-2010, 09:53 PM
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askren would kill him and i think he would beat lytle. the other i would love to see thoguh
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10-18-2010, 10:27 PM
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lol the Kampmann fight was close but damn 80% im not sure about that...
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10-18-2010, 10:44 PM
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I think the only person available that makes sence is fitch, hell maybe condits well rounded game might make for a less boring hump fest, be also intresting that one is kos's training partner, wher ethe other trains with GSP, and this fight could be on the same card.
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10-18-2010, 11:16 PM
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realistically if you want him to fight nick why not just put nate on there since its a fight that could actually happen, although i think either diaz has the tools to grind out a decision over him but any of those guys would be an interesting fight that i would definately pay to see especially the kampmann, lytle or diaz fights. Fuck setting another contender back by letting him get grinded out by fitch might as well let gsp do it instead of watching him beat fitch and kos over and over again cause they can out wrestle everyone but gsp
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10-19-2010, 03:14 AM
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I admit....Condit's KO over Hardy made me a believer. I thought Condit was overrated a bit....I agree with the loss to Kampmann, l believe he lost to Ellenberger and, for two rounds, he got handled by Rory MacDonald. I was impressed with his comeback win over MacDonald, but thought Hardy would knock Condit's head off into the 8th row. Condit came in looking crisp, confident, landing nice combos and great movement. No doubt Condit is one to watch. I love the idea of the Diaz or Lytle fight, but agree "ladder-climbing-wise", Fitch seems the most logical. Fitch even said he thinks he'd rather fight again than wait so long. After all, Condit did do in 4 minutes what GSP couldnt do in 25. Just sayin..... I think GSP would win, but Condit's last two performances cant be ignored.
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10-19-2010, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by foutch550 I admit....Condit's KO over Hardy made me a believer. I thought Condit was overrated a bit....I agree with the loss to Kampmann, l believe he lost to Ellenberger and, for two rounds, he got handled by Rory MacDonald. I was impressed with his comeback win over MacDonald, but thought Hardy would knock Condit's head off into the 8th row. Condit came in looking crisp, confident, landing nice combos and great movement. No doubt Condit is one to watch. I love the idea of the Diaz or Lytle fight, but agree "ladder-climbing-wise", Fitch seems the most logical. Fitch even said he thinks he'd rather fight again than wait so long. After all, Condit did do in 4 minutes what GSP couldnt do in 25. Just sayin..... I think GSP would win, but Condit's last two performances cant be ignored. | You need to go back and rewatch those fights. No way Ellenberger won rnds 2 and 3 and while rd 2 vs Macdonald was close I gave that one to Condit as I feel he landed more shots opposed to a couple takedowns with out much else. Condit is the real deal and can hang with anyone in the division and if he loses it will be a razor thin decision.
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10-19-2010, 05:55 AM
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As of right now Lytle makes the most sense for Condit. Even with such an impressive KO I still feel he's a few spots away from the top five. I have felt Hardy is overrated for a long time and this fight has finally proved it, so beating him doesn't catapult you into top five spot in my eyes.
As someone alluded to earlier, I felt the Ellenberger fight could have gone either way and that he was getting schooled by MacDonald up until the third. So because of this he is still one fight away from fighting a top five contender in my eyes.
A win over a grisly veteran like Lytle would set him up for a top five fighter in the division. It could be a number of different people Fitch, Sheilds, Kampman rematch, Kos or even GSP depending on how the divisions play out over the next 4-5 months. Either way the welter weight division is really starting to heat up with alot of hungry up and comers. Who knows, maybe we'll see Hughs make another run haha.
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Originally Posted by Chute_Boxe44 As someone alluded to earlier, I felt the Ellenberger fight could have gone either way and that he was getting schooled by MacDonald up until the third. So because of this he is still one fight away from fighting a top five contender in my eyes.
A win over a grisly veteran like Lytle would set him up for a top five fighter in the division. It could be a number of different people Fitch, Sheilds, Kampman rematch, Kos or even GSP depending on how the divisions play out over the next 4-5 months. Either way the welter weight division is really starting to heat up with alot of hungry up and comers. Who knows, maybe we'll see Hughs make another run haha. | Agreed. But imo, we've recently found out more about Condit than we did about Hardy in this fight. Depending on Hardy's next fight, I think we'll see if Hardy is in fact overrated....assuming the UFC gives Hardy someone relevant. Its hard to deny though that Hardy's a tough SOB and getting a KO over him certainly looks good on Condit's resume.
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