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12-19-2006, 07:49 AM
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the only people who overrate him is the tuffer newbies who just dont know any better or people who like his cool hair.
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12-19-2006, 08:17 AM
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Diego impressed me in the Karo fight, as far as the rest of the TUF guys, I haven't seen anything outstanding. Griffin's fun to watch, but I don't think he can hang with the big guys. He did good against Tito, but to be honest, we don't know what level Tito is really at right now. Let's see how he does against Chuck before we put him back on that top tier.
I'm so sick of all these youngsters and new mma fans hanging on the jocks of these TUF guys because they saw them on a reality show. IMO, until they beat quality opponents, all they are are Pop stars.
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12-19-2006, 09:30 AM
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If you think the TUF guys are good fighters you get called a nuthugger. You guys are just TUF haters, give the guys some respect. Many were busts but a few have stepped to the forefront and made the UFC more commercial. Forrest, Diego, Swick, all are in title contention. Bisping is a solid fighter, along with Koscheck, Rashad, and Florian. Why can't he just think of everyone as MMA fighters, who cares about their background. These guys were all fighters before the show (besides Koscheck) and will be fighters afterwards, leave it at that.
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12-19-2006, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Soul_Edge If you think the TUF guys are good fighters you get called a nuthugger. You guys are just TUF haters, give the guys some respect. Many were busts but a few have stepped to the forefront and made the UFC more commercial. Forrest, Diego, Swick, all are in title contention. Bisping is a solid fighter, along with Koscheck, Rashad, and Florian. Why can't he just think of everyone as MMA fighters, who cares about their background. These guys were all fighters before the show (besides Koscheck) and will be fighters afterwards, leave it at that. | 
Can't we all just get along?
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12-19-2006, 09:34 AM
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Koscheck is one of the best TUF fighters. He has the best wrestling skill in the division plus has decent subs. His striking is getting better. He's not at top level just yet but I feel that with more training he will get there. In a year or two, he could very well be competing for a title.
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12-19-2006, 09:36 AM
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1) kocheck won't fight leben or jason macdonald b/c they're at 185
2) i don't think i've seen anyone on this forum say that kos is some amazing fighter. i'm pretty sure most people know that he's just a great wrestler thats learning the game.
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12-19-2006, 09:51 AM
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yes he's overrated and isn't improving nearly as much as people say...you and i, along with everyone saw him against joslin who dominated him standing and outclassed him on the ground with his defense and incredible bjj...the only thing that won him the fight were his consistent takedowns, which were really really good
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12-19-2006, 10:11 AM
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Joslin is no slouch, though. You would just expect more out of a "Poster Boy".
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12-19-2006, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBanda First off, Koscheck is boring and he can wrestle but thats pretty much it so "yes" he is overrated. |
All I can say about this is that at one time, all matt hughes could do was wrestle too....
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12-19-2006, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Trustym2 All I can say about this is that at one time, all matt hughes could do was wrestle too.... | last i checked, matt hughes still finished his fights. and i havent been in the MMA community forever, but i've never heard anyone call him boring
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