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[Ares]

Originally Posted by AudieMurphy1

quite frankly i'm tired of hearing all the hype, its time for him to fight, until then, he is nothing but the tuf winner

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[AudieMurphy1]

Originally Posted by Hypergit

And the undefeated Cage Rage champion, Cage Warriors champion, FX3 champion, 2* UK kickboxing champion.....

and how many fighters have come from these other venues and failed in the ufc? enough for me to want him to put up some descent ufc fights before i start declaring him the next best thing since sliced bread

[Palma]

Originally Posted by AudieMurphy1

quite frankly i'm tired of hearing all the hype, its time for him to fight, until then, he is nothing but the tuf winner

He's different from all the other TUF fighters in the sense that he has some decent MMA accomplishments and he already has his own style. He is well versed in MMA, and his strength and Cardio are off the charts. I think that was the only season where a TUF contestent (Bisping) could have already beaten the coach (tito) if they were to fight. All contestents Bisping faught went down like you'd expect if they do against a veteran. Or like GSP would say Ve-te-ran.

[AudieMurphy1]

Originally Posted by Palma Wrestler

He's different from all the other TUF fighters in the sense that he has some decent MMA accomplishments and he already has his own style. He is well versed in MMA, and his strength and Cardio are off the charts. I think that was the only season where a TUF contestent (Bisping) could have already beaten the coach (tito) if they were to fight. All contestents Bisping faught went down like you'd expect if they do against a veteran. Or like GSP would say Ve-te-ran.

this is exactly what i'm talking about.....i hate tito, but theres no way i'm taking bisping over him, tito has proven he has what it takes to survive in the ufc, bisping has wooped up on a few tuff contestanst and has had one poor showing against a can, pardon me for not bowing down before his sparkling clean jock

[Spun City]

I felt he was lucky on the show that he didn't have to fight the deaf guy....that guy basically beat someone with one arm for what I remember and is a world class wrestler.

[AJL416AZ]

Originally Posted by Spun City

I felt he was lucky on the show that he didn't have to fight the deaf guy....that guy basically beat someone with one arm for what I remember and is a world class wrestler.

he beat a terrible striker with terrible standup with his own terrible standup
and he outwrestled Forbes in the finale, and used the sprawl and bad standup to beat a 21 year old kid with 2 pro fights.

big fuckin deal. hammill isnt even a world class wrestler. he won the deaf olympics. the competition there is not as fierce as the D1 NCAA championships. and from what i know of wrestling, i would take a D1 All American over that accomplishment

and i'm not a wrestler, so that may be why his wrestling didnt awe me in the Petruzelli fight either. he has good technique, and HUGE strength. he ragdolled a former HW like nothing. but he has no explosion in his shot. i'll go ahead and say i think Rashad is a better wrestler then him



the only reason Hammill could give Bisping problems because Bisping himself admitted that his wrestling sucked. even Ross gave him problems with wrestling in their fight. but just like Ross, Hammill's sub game sucks, and he would tap Matt easily in the fight, just like in practice.

[jesusatemyhotdog]

I have seen about 4 or 5 of his Cage Warriors and Cage Rage fights. From what I saw, he is incredibly talented. His skill set is very diverse. However, Audie is right when he makes the point that it is very hard to assess European fighters' overall talent due to the fact that the competition is kind of weak.

He is however a BJJ and a Kickboxing champion, so he has a great foundation for success.

We will get a pretty good indication after UFC 66 given the fact that the man they are putting him in the ring with isn't exactly a can. Eric is a good prospect in his own right, even though he is pretty one dimensional from what I know of him.

I am looking to see how Bisping controls the game on the feet and if he can prevent Schafer from taking him down.

I personally believe in Bisping and am excited to see if he is indeed what I think he is.

[Palma]

Originally Posted by AJL416AZ

he beat a terrible striker with terrible standup with his own terrible standup
and he outwrestled Forbes in the finale, and used the sprawl and bad standup to beat a 21 year old kid with 2 pro fights.

big fuckin deal. hammill isnt even a world class wrestler. he won the deaf olympics. the competition there is not as fierce as the D1 NCAA championships. and from what i know of wrestling, i would take a D1 All American over that accomplishment

and i'm not a wrestler, so that may be why his wrestling didnt awe me in the Petruzelli fight either. he has good technique, and HUGE strength. he ragdolled a former HW like nothing. but he has no explosion in his shot. i'll go ahead and say i think Rashad is a better wrestler then him



the only reason Hammill could give Bisping problems because Bisping himself admitted that his wrestling sucked. even Ross gave him problems with wrestling in their fight. but just like Ross, Hammill's sub game sucks, and he would tap Matt easily in the fight, just like in practice.

Hammill's wrestling is as sloppy as most other things he does. He's still experienced and effective, but compared to world class wrestling he is very sloppy.