Originally Posted by iced
i dont see where a lot of the hate has come from and agree with duff man.
uhm...yay for Duffee for finding a way to keep his name in people's mouths for another day? I like him, but I'm a little mystified.
I don't really see a lot of hate for lesnar. I've been one of the more vocal critics on the board in pointing out the pedestrian qualities of his skillset, but I don't hate anyone. I'm not reading anyone here--or anywhere else--coming out and heaping abuse on him, and even the negativity that he's generated doesn't strike me as mind-boggling or sickening.
I think when you have a figure as overhyped as lesnar has been, the minute someone points out a bit of reality, it's misinterpreted as hating on the guy. When I've said repeatedly that he's got good wrestling, but not great; tons of fanboys get their shit worked up because they read that as me saying his wrestling sucks. When I say he augments good wrestling with size/strength to be a threat, they misinterpret that as saying he only uses his size and has no skill.
Duffee refers to people saying lesnar might walk away if he loses his next fight as though it's the worst thing in the world. I don't think it's likely [A) that he'll be matched with anyone who can beat him, or B) if he does
lose, that he'll walk away from a half-million-every-six-to-ten month payday that's guaranteed even if he does get his ass handed to him again]...but it's not entirely out of the realm of speculation.
With a loss, lesnar would be 5-3 in MMA, with one of those wins over a nameless dented tomato can in Dynamite! and another where he looked like a punching bag for 90% of the fight. That's hardly a stellar record. The improvement that he's shown [vs the improvement that has been hyped and never materialized] isn't a strong indicator that he'd do much better against Cain, or even that he'd win a rematch against Carwin. And he's walked away from careers before.
So sure, feel free to misinterpret this as a hate post. It's pretty common knowledge that I don't admire him as an individual...but I honestly don't hate the guy. I'd be happy if he genuinely turned things around, if he started working towards getting MMA more accepted by the mainstream instead of playing a two-dimensional villain caricature that reinforces a host of negative feelings the mainstream already has developed about the industry. I'd be thrilled if he lived up to even half of his potential.
But that doesn't mean I hate the guy. Questioning his skillset--questions which have been validated by his performance--and not buying into the heel role he plays as being "good for the industry" doesn't necessarily mean anyone hates him. It just means they don't buy the hype.