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Old 10-27-2010, 09:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Todd Duffee: "The Hate That Brock Lesnar Has Received Is Mind Boggling and Sickening"

Todd Duffee: "The Hate That Brock Lesnar Has Received Is Mind Boggling and Sickening" - Bloody Elbow



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Todd Duffee, the 24-year-old, former top UFC heavyweight prospect, doesn't like the amount of "hate" Brock Lesnar has been receiving since his UFC 121 loss to Cain Velasquez. There are lots of fickle fans and analysts who have called him great one day and completely untalented on the next, and Duffee is sick of it. He went on the UG to talk about it:

I do not understand why people think if he loses his next fight he will walk away? I am not a fan nor do I hate the guy I think he has been very beneficial for the sport of mma and has earned his place with in the sport. It just bothers me that people tear this guy down so much when he clearly is dedicated and has the tools to be great. I honestly was rooting for cain(underdog shake up the division sounded fun) but the hate that brock has received is mind boggling and sickening. Can't we just be happy he went out an bared his soul in front of the whole world after committing his entire life to that moment against cain for four months prior. I don't get it any more the dude deserves everyones respect whether you like him or not.
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I can't rep you yet Sakara. Too bad I can't rep Duffee either.
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I'll tell you why he's "Hated":

His antics in the cage after 100
His "I'm the baddest man on the planet" stance
His receiving a title shot based on his drawing power after posting a stellar 2-1 record

When you have a love/hate personality and openly embrace it like Brock does, you are going to have to make sure you truly are the baddest man around or you get to listen to the hate. That's what's happening now.

I don't think anyone needs to be getting all red-assed about how Brock is being "hated-on."
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I'm awaiting for the haters to join in.

EDIT:looks like I'm late.
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The Baddest Man on the Planet sure has some ultra-sensitive fans.
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I'll tell you why he's "Hated":

His antics in the cage after 100
His "I'm the baddest man on the planet" stance
His receiving a title shot based on his drawing power after posting a stellar 2-1 record

When you have a love/hate personality and openly embrace it like Brock does, you are going to have to make sure you truly are the baddest man around or you get to listen to the hate. That's what's happening now.

I don't think anyone needs to be getting all red-assed about how Brock is being "hated-on."
true, and i actually couldnt stand the guy for a while. (still pissed he beat my boy carwin too lolz)
he was sure spoon fed the title shot, but he accomplished great things for being so young to the sport. like him or not....he is a legitimate force. and brock will continue to learn and improve imo (which is scary)

he says really dumb shit sometimes. but i really think after his illness, he has turned a lot of that around and humbled. they guy was extremely humble in defeat on saturday as well.

i dont see where a lot of the hate has come from and agree with duff man.
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i dont see where a lot of the hate has come from and agree with duff man.
uhm...yay for Duffee for finding a way to keep his name in people's mouths for another day? I like him, but I'm a little mystified.

I don't really see a lot of hate for lesnar. I've been one of the more vocal critics on the board in pointing out the pedestrian qualities of his skillset, but I don't hate anyone. I'm not reading anyone here--or anywhere else--coming out and heaping abuse on him, and even the negativity that he's generated doesn't strike me as mind-boggling or sickening.

I think when you have a figure as overhyped as lesnar has been, the minute someone points out a bit of reality, it's misinterpreted as hating on the guy. When I've said repeatedly that he's got good wrestling, but not great; tons of fanboys get their shit worked up because they read that as me saying his wrestling sucks. When I say he augments good wrestling with size/strength to be a threat, they misinterpret that as saying he only uses his size and has no skill.

Duffee refers to people saying lesnar might walk away if he loses his next fight as though it's the worst thing in the world. I don't think it's likely [A) that he'll be matched with anyone who can beat him, or B) if he does lose, that he'll walk away from a half-million-every-six-to-ten month payday that's guaranteed even if he does get his ass handed to him again]...but it's not entirely out of the realm of speculation.

With a loss, lesnar would be 5-3 in MMA, with one of those wins over a nameless dented tomato can in Dynamite! and another where he looked like a punching bag for 90% of the fight. That's hardly a stellar record. The improvement that he's shown [vs the improvement that has been hyped and never materialized] isn't a strong indicator that he'd do much better against Cain, or even that he'd win a rematch against Carwin. And he's walked away from careers before.

So sure, feel free to misinterpret this as a hate post. It's pretty common knowledge that I don't admire him as an individual...but I honestly don't hate the guy. I'd be happy if he genuinely turned things around, if he started working towards getting MMA more accepted by the mainstream instead of playing a two-dimensional villain caricature that reinforces a host of negative feelings the mainstream already has developed about the industry. I'd be thrilled if he lived up to even half of his potential.

But that doesn't mean I hate the guy. Questioning his skillset--questions which have been validated by his performance--and not buying into the heel role he plays as being "good for the industry" doesn't necessarily mean anyone hates him. It just means they don't buy the hype.

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uhm...yay for Duffee for finding a way to keep his name in people's mouths for another day? I like him, but I'm a little mystified.

I don't really see a lot of hate for lesnar. I've been one of the more vocal critics on the board in pointing out the pedestrian qualities of his skillset, but I don't hate anyone. I'm not reading anyone here--or anywhere else--coming out and heaping abuse on him, and even the negativity that he's generated doesn't strike me as mind-boggling or sickening. rh
well, i sure have seen a lot of "lesnar sucks" going around. and to tell you the truth, i dont know why i am defending the guy cause i sure as hell am not the guys biggest fan......i am jus saying a i think folks just jump the fence too quick at times.

sure, the guy caught an as whipping and was exposed. its mma......its bound to happen. imo, i think a lot of people are just mad that he was ranked #1. lolz
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is tod duffee really mad at the way brock was treated or is he mad that he was in many ways brock 2.0 as far as hype?
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