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[killakem1]

Originally Posted by W.Silva>C.Norris

the only fights Id like to see out of randy anymore are the fights, like he says, that are "novelty". A rematch with (sigh) tito, or maybe even though he'd get killed in my opinion, anderson at 205(again, assuming ed sores was lying). As for relevant fights against title contenders? meh. Im just not sure randy has it left in him to make a run for a belt, then try to defend it.. The man is near 50...

he turned 47 last june. and a rematch with tito seems logical.

[snappinnecks]

Randy is still the man no matter what anyone says hes one of the biggest faces in mma even at his age he is one of the greatest ever

[YukonJordan]

Originally Posted by The Return Of......

im sure it would be difficult for him to make another title run. in reality he needs a win or 2 against some of the top guys to get a title shot if he wasnt randy couture.

however, in the event that rashad gets hurt about the time shogun gets healthy, randy would make an excellent replacement that no one would complain about skipping ahead and filling in for a title fight

I would complain. The fans don't need Randy to have another undesrved titleshot.

Randy is awesome for what he done for the sport but I think in 30 years when we look back on MMA it will be his accomplishments outside of the fighting aspect that really helped MMA. His demeanor, professionalism and candor will all be missed.

He's a tough fight for most people but I still think the beloved admiration he recieves isn't in line where he actually is as a fighter. Take out his two last "freakshow" fights and his record is 17-10.

[goodtimes]

Originally Posted by born2kill

Not really. His wrestling would eat up machida and shogun. His dirty boxing causes fits for rashad and bones.

Randy couldn't really take down Vera; Bones took him down with ease. No one has been able to take Machida down, so I don't know why you would just assume Randy could. I would not want to see Randy fight Jones, Machida, Rashad, Shogun, Bader, or Rampage. I think him fighting any of these fighters would end brutally. And really I think he knows that, otherwise he wouldn't say what he said.

But I do think it's really cool that a guy his age has still been competitive, fighting some very solid guys. I've been a fan of Randy for a while, and think he still has a few good fights left in him.

[killakem1]

Originally Posted by YukonJordan

I would complain. The fans don't need Randy to have another undesrved titleshot.

Randy is awesome for what he done for the sport but I think in 30 years when we look back on MMA it will be his accomplishments outside of the fighting aspect that really helped MMA. His demeanor, professionalism and candor will all be missed.

He's a tough fight for most people but I still think the beloved admiration he recieves isn't in line where he actually is as a fighter. Take out his two last "freakshow" fights and his record is 17-10.

agree with most of your post but the bold i have to address..

yes the toney fight was a freak show but how is the mark coleman fight a freak show? it was the first time 2 ufc hall of famers fought and was a ledgend fight (people are calling for cc/randy just based on that its a ledgend fight)

yes you can make the argument that coleman is passed his prime but look at his previous 5 fights. hes 2-3 in those with wins over shogun (i know a fluke with shogun breaking his arm) and bonnar and loses to shogun, randy and fedor.

i for one wouldnt call the coleman fight a freakshow. it was a fight between 2 pioneers of the sport. not the most competitive but a fight between 2 ledgends, 2 hall of famers, and 2 pioneers of the sport.

[YukonJordan]

Originally Posted by killakem1

agree with most of your post but the bold i have to address..

yes the toney fight was a freak show but how is the mark coleman fight a freak show? it was the first time 2 ufc hall of famers fought and was a ledgend fight (people are calling for cc/randy just based on that its a ledgend fight)

yes you can make the argument that coleman is passed his prime but look at his previous 5 fights. hes 2-3 in those with wins over shogun (i know a fluke with shogun breaking his arm) and bonnar and loses to shogun, randy and fedor.

i for one wouldnt call the coleman fight a freakshow. it was a fight between 2 pioneers of the sport. not the most competitive but a fight between 2 ledgends, 2 hall of famers, and 2 pioneers of the sport.

Thats fair. I was just sort looking at it from the perspective of Coleman looking like a shell of an MMA fighter almost the same way Toney was. I suppose could have reworded it to say "inconsequencial fights" instead of freakshow.

[born2kill]

Originally Posted by goodtimes

Randy couldn't really take down Vera; Bones took him down with ease. No one has been able to take Machida down, so I don't know why you would just assume Randy could. I would not want to see Randy fight Jones, Machida, Rashad, Shogun, Bader, or Rampage. I think him fighting any of these fighters would end brutally. And really I think he knows that, otherwise he wouldn't say what he said.

But I do think it's really cool that a guy his age has still been competitive, fighting some very solid guys. I've been a fan of Randy for a while, and think he still has a few good fights left in him.

I didnt say he would outwrestle Jones. So his wrestling against vera is irrelevant. I think he would/could grind out decision against Jones with a dirty boxing like he did with vera. He may slip in a takedown since jones legs are so long, but its not how i envision he wins the fight. And its not an easy win, I give him a 50/50 chance

Against Shogun and Machida, I see Randy catching them and taking them down and dominating. It might take a few minutes to catch em, but I dont see them KOing him quicker than he can catch em. He doesnt have a glass jaw.

Against Rashad, they'll probably trade takedowns. Rashad has better knees, randy has better hands and elbows. I think he decisions Rashad too.

[kickass32]

Originally Posted by born2kill

I didnt say he would outwrestle Jones. So his wrestling against vera is irrelevant. I think he would/could grind out decision against Jones with a dirty boxing like he did with vera. He may slip in a takedown since jones legs are so long, but its not how i envision he wins the fight. And its not an easy win, I give him a 50/50 chance

Against Shogun and Machida, I see Randy catching them and taking them down and dominating. It might take a few minutes to catch em, but I dont see them KOing him quicker than he can catch em. He doesnt have a glass jaw.

Against Rashad, they'll probably trade takedowns. Rashad has better knees, randy has better hands and elbows. I think he decisions Rashad too.

Here's my take for what it's worth........I don't think Randy has a chance to get close enough to Jones to get any dirty boxing in. Jones is too fast for Randy, and Jones picks him apart all day until the brutal KO. Against Machida, I see much the same outcome as the Jones fight...Machida with his angles, and punches and kicks coming from nowhere, I see Randy ending up pretty much like Rashad did in his fight with Lyoto. Rashad...I think Rashad has better hands then Randy, by far...Rashad does to Randy what Chuck did to him twice IMO.....Ironically I see Randy's best matchup against Shogun, but Randy's strength, Dirty boxing in the clinch, also plays into Shogun's strength, the dreaded Muay Thai clinch, and I see Randy taking a nap in this fight too.

[killakem1]

Originally Posted by YukonJordan

Thats fair. I was just sort looking at it from the perspective of Coleman looking like a shell of an MMA fighter almost the same way Toney was. I suppose could have reworded it to say "inconsequencial fights" instead of freakshow.

"inconsequencial fights" now that i would agree with.

[stpierrecanada]

Either way, Randy is a true legend of the sport and whatever he chooses I will support him. He will always be recognized as an all time MMA great.