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Originally Posted by SWIFTboy

This is the crux of your flawed logic. It's a common fallacy called MMA math. It's a mistake I used to make; I'm trying to help you understand.



No, I disagree with you BECAUSE it's flawed.



You did back it up, which is good. You backing it up is what enables me too see the flaw in your logic. You points WERE logical, but that logic is flawed. I'll show you how it is flawed...



The flaw is that you beleive all power shots are created equal. A power shot from Sonnen is not the same thing as a power shot from Belfort.

Yes, you could argue that Anderson showed a good chin against Sonnen (though I'd counter that Sonnen wasn't actually throwing power shots at all). However, attempting to translate that to Anderson being able to take power shots from Belfort is what is referred to as MMA math.

Could Anderson take a power shot from Vitor? Maybe. We'll find out if and when he does. However, you can't deduce it by analyzing his fight from Sonnen.




You're right. Can you see the difference though? There's one less variable here. Vitor and Sonnen punches are different. Conditioning is a constant in MMA (for the most part). However, it would be flawed logic to beleive that GSP and Edgar would make good triathletes, based on their conditioning in MMA.



So feel free to say you think Anderson has a great chin. However, if you say he'll be able to withstand Vitor's power punches because he withstood Sonnen's, I'm gonna say MMA math, every time.



Before you do anything (especially reply), take a deep breath, and ask yourself if it's POSSIBLE that I'm right. Try to think about it without emotion, and realize that this isn't a personal attack on you or an insult. Have an open mind.

In his defense Anderson Silva has taken power shots from heavyweights in boxing matches. One that immediately comes to mind was his sparring with Nog without head gear.

YouTube - Anderson Silva sparring

Its sparring though so take it with a grain of salt. Remove the heavy gloves and turn it into a real fight and the outcome could have been much different but who knows right?

What we do know is that Silva has never been knocked out or knocked down. Like Fedor he did get stunned against Sonnen but showed his ability to recover despite his injuries.

[SWIFTboy]

Originally Posted by end it with a left

Silva has a solid chin he proved that to me taking so many power punches from Sonnen.

MMA math.

Originally Posted by end it with a left

Well I wouldn't call it MMA math I would call it I watched him eat 4 rounds of the hardest punches Sonnen could muster while supposedly juicing and never looked like he was in trouble of going to sleep.

MMA math.

Originally Posted by end it with a left

Im not saying Sonnen hits as hard or has the technique Im saying I watched a guy eat a shit ton of strikes for 4.5 rounds and not get in too much trouble.

MMA math.

Originally Posted by end it with a left

You should read the whole statement before you start attacking what I said.

I did read the whole statement. However, the only part I had a problem with was your use of MMA math, so that's the only part I highlighted and attempted to counter.

The rest was mostly opinion on how the fight would go down, and whether I agree with that or not was irrelevent to my point.

I would hardly say I ever attacked what you said, but obviously you take things pretty personally so it might seem that way to you.

Originally Posted by end it with a left

Im not saying his chin has to last 5 rounds im saying i think his chin will last until the middle of the second round where Vitor slows down and it becomes Anderson's fight. I never once said Vitor is not going to k.o him, I also didn't say Sonnen hits as hard

I don't care to agree or disagree with any of this because it has nothing to do with you using MMA math. This is just you repeating previous things you've already said that have nothing to do with the argument I'm (trying to) have with you.

Originally Posted by end it with a left

I love that you said it wasn't good GnP. He was fully postured and putting his weight into them can't get any better than that.

So NOW your rating Anderson's chin against Belfort based on Sonnen's GnP!?!? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Can I get an MMA math? MMA math!

Originally Posted by end it with a left

I will take a breath and take back that you are dense you obviously are just stupid.

Someone's getting angry!!!

Originally Posted by end it with a left

Once again its not flawed because I don't think they are equal in striking and i even stated that. Vitor is going to gas sooner than later and has to catch him early, I dont think thats going to happen thats why i think Okami is a bigger threat to win 5 blanket rounds

Obviously none of THIS is intrinsically flawed, because it's only an opinion. Dude, you don't even understand WHAT MY POINT WAS. You still don't even understand what about your original post IS MMA MATH. Do you even realize that Anderson could spend 5 rounds taking Belfort's power shots and you WOULD NOT have proved me wrong?

I wouldn't have even gone this far, since you obviously don't care to listen and learn from your mistakes, except that I'm hoping other readers out there just might (the way I did from others).

Don't even bother to respond, because you're just gonna re-state your opinion about how the fight will go down and tell me I'm stupid. You're just wasting time. I'm done with you.

p.s. MMA MATH!