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[kingrobert]

Originally Posted by IrishX(aka bornbear)

The way I look at it Rampage always has at least a punchers chance. If he does want to win we better see some of that old fighter he once was.

I agree. If Rampage wants to win he needs to mix in a few takedowns. The dude is a beast and can probably take anyone down if he wants to. Pluss we havent seen Machida on his back with a ground and pound fighter on top. I dont think Rampage should throw any kicks. If he throws a slow lazy kick he is going to get put on his ass by a sweep or counter punch.

Machida wins this fight in IMO.

[end it with a left]

Originally Posted by Pashak

And the "you have to be the predator and make him be the pray" LOOOOOL, so in other words he is saying to Page that he should constantly attack machida....Big Big mistake, except Shogun, everybody that tried to be agressive against Lyoto finished destroyed.

Wow i couldn't disagree with you more. First of all the last person Lyoto "finished destroyed" was Rashad who was trying to counter punch him aka being the prey not the predator. Also when Thiago Silva was pressing forward against Machida in the first 2 rounds he did a load better than in the third when he let Machida come to him... cause he got k.o'd. Machida's 'boring' fights where the ones where he was not the agressor, the ones where his opponents were actually in the fight. But you're right obviously Rampage who is slower than Rashad should try to sit back and counter the much much faster fighter. Good call.

[QOTSA420]

By old Rampage does he mean the one that lost to Marvin Eastman?

[jody]

The conditioning comment isn't inspiring much confidence in Rampage for me.

[v3xi]

Originally Posted by end it with a left

Wow i couldn't disagree with you more. First of all the last person Lyoto "finished destroyed" was Rashad who was trying to counter punch him aka being the prey not the predator. Also when Thiago Silva was pressing forward against Machida in the first 2 rounds he did a load better than in the third when he let Machida come to him... cause he got k.o'd. Machida's 'boring' fights where the ones where he was not the agressor, the ones where his opponents were actually in the fight. But you're right obviously Rampage who is slower than Rashad should try to sit back and counter the much much faster fighter. Good call.

Rashad gave up. He had nothing for Lyoto and started talking trash in the middle of getting punched in the face. I don't really know what Rashad was doing but it was not counter punching.

Thiago Silva was KO'd at 0:00 in the first round and did pretty much nothing to Machida as well.

Rampage should get inside where he is the more powerful fighter and take Machida to the ground. It won't happen because Page is an idiot but the next best thing he can do is counter punch since that is the type of fighter he has always been, and quite successful at that. Unless you advocate a fighter going against everything he has done for the past 5 years I say Page should counter punch this fight, then find a new camp.

[IrishX(aka bornbear)]

Originally Posted by QOTSA420

By old Rampage does he mean the one that lost to Marvin Eastman?

Probably meant this....

[roaddawg]

Maybe its the one that destroyed Eastman and Wanderlei in the rematch (lets hope)

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Originally Posted by v3xi

Rashad gave up. He had nothing for Lyoto and started talking trash in the middle of getting punched in the face. I don't really know what Rashad was doing but it was not counter punching.

Thiago Silva was KO'd at 0:00 in the first round and did pretty much nothing to Machida as well.

Rampage should get inside where he is the more powerful fighter and take Machida to the ground. It won't happen because Page is an idiot but the next best thing he can do is counter punch since that is the type of fighter he has always been, and quite successful at that. Unless you advocate a fighter going against everything he has done for the past 5 years I say Page should counter punch this fight, then find a new camp.

Either way Rashad wasn't taking the fight to Machida he was waiting for him to come in and I didnt say Silva was doing great but he didn't get ktfo while moving forward. I would also say that Rampage was not effective at all countering Rashad or Forrest. I would also consider moving inside and taking him down being the predator taking him the fight to him. Thanks for agreeing with me through your argument tho. Is your sig a picture of you right before you posted that?

[v3xi]

Originally Posted by end it with a left

Either way Rashad wasn't taking the fight to Machida he was waiting for him to come in and I didnt say Silva was doing great but he didn't get ktfo while moving forward. I would also say that Rampage was not effective at all countering Rashad or Forrest. I would also consider moving inside and taking him down being the predator taking him the fight to him. Thanks for agreeing with me through your argument tho. Is your sig a picture of you right before you posted that?

Both Rashad and Thiago gave up, thats why they got KO'd. They were frusterated and realized pretty early on that they had no chance to win.

Rampage is a mixed bag and talking about him and strategy is full of asterisks. With his fight against Forrest that is the fattest Rampage I have ever seen in my life. Against Rashad he obviously did not train properly or have any kind of game plan other than punching which still almost won him the fight. I hate Rashad but I give him huge props on how he fought Page, never seen those kind of feints used the way he used em and it won him the fight.

Page is fighting someone where leg kicks dont matter, I would give Page a pretty good shot at winning (more than 95% of the posters here would not) but his heart for fighting and his lack of cardio makes me say Machida by landslide decision.

PS: I wouldn't be making fun of how I post considering you thought Machida vs Thiago was 3 rounds where Thiago was competitive. Don't take me correcting your dumb mistakes as an attack towards you.

[Goremire]

Originally Posted by Goremire

It seems Jackson has seen Machida's washed up 80's action star Steven Segal, and raised him Spyke from X-Men: The Last Stand.

This has train-wreck written all over it for Rampage.

Ha, shows how much I fucking know, right? Is it possible to neg yourself on this board?

Well done to Rampage, Lance Gibson and his whole coaching staff.