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[QOTSA420]

There is a lot of buzz about Rampage and Machida fighting again on the internet. I personally scored the bout 30-29 for Lyoto, but I guess I could maybe see it going to Jackson after a rewatch. The first round was a 10-10 round with neither guy doing much. In the second Jackson scored with that takedown but did nothing with it allowing Machida to pop up and get free. I scored that round 10-10 as well. The third round was obviously Machida. 10-9 for Lyoto.

I personally don't see the need for another fight right off the bat. This is a fight where a win or a loss never really hurt or helped either guy's credibility due to the way it played out. The championship fight is locked up untill March, and both Shogun and Rashad will be on the shelf a little bit after that fight. So I think Zuffa should line up other fights. I would like to see Jackson vs Jones, vs Lil Nog, or Forrest a second time. Or Machida vs Franklin II, vs Jones, or even Bader. There are too many great fights to be made right now, but some people need a definitive winner.

What does everyone else think?

[Xanatos]

I think anybody getting pissed about this decision needs to calm down. No one really deserved to win that fight. And I'm tired of people saying the judging criteria needs to be changed for fighters like Machida who seem to strictly counter-punch. Although he's a master of his craft, his craft is boring and only works when someone plays into his game, and unfortunately for him, people have kinda figured it out.

Sorry for the ranting, but I've been quiet since the fights, and I've waited to see everyone's reaction before i gave my two cents. I didn't score this fight, because I honestly didn't expect it to go to decision, but as soon as the end bell rang, I had it in my mind that Rampage would win, solely because he's the only one who seemed to push the action for the majority of the fight. But that's not what i think should have happened, it's just what i expected the judges to pick.

As for the next fights, I say Rampage fights Griffin if he beats Franklin. That's a fight he probably wants bad, and I think it will motivate him to be the Rampage we all love, or love to hate. But I think Dana will throw him at the loser of Shogun and Evans.

Machida will probably get someone from the jones bader fight. most likely the loser as a tune up fight, if it can be called that. I think Bader and Jones both beat Machida. If they use their takedowns and keep them down they can grind him out.

And if there is a huge demand for a rematch then go for it. I just hope it's not as slow as the first one, and somebody steps up to finish it.

[mulefloyd]

I agree with idea that there are more interesting matches to be made rather than a rematch. Love the idea of Page/Bones or Machida/Bones (obviously assuming he wins over Bader) or Page/Forrest 2 if Forrest beats Franklin or Machida/Frankin 2 if Franklin wins or...

[noahm]

I don't think the judging criteria needs to be changed to favor a certain style so much is it needs to be changed so that you can score a round as a draw. A lot of people are saying they had the rounds scored 10-10, 9-9, or whatever. I am not sure how many people know that that is not possible in the 10 point must system. Someone has to be given the round, which is why draws only happen when there is a penalty point issue.

I really don't see a need for a rematch since nobody really got set back by it, and there are other fights to be had, but maybe at a later time if it comes around.

[Bubbles]

I had Rampage winning it 29-28 now a rematch personally dont think is necessary but I wont be against

[Otomosix]

Originally Posted by noahm

I don't think the judging criteria needs to be changed to favor a certain style so much is it needs to be changed so that you can score a round as a draw. A lot of people are saying they had the rounds scored 10-10, 9-9, or whatever. I am not sure how many people know that that is not possible in the 10 point must system. Someone has to be given the round, which is why draws only happen when there is a penalty point issue.

I really don't see a need for a rematch since nobody really got set back by it, and there are other fights to be had, but maybe at a later time if it comes around.

This and I was pleasantly surprised to see a more strategic and tactical Rampage than ever before. After the 1st round, it appeared his game plan wasn't merely to 1-shot KO Machida but instead to calmly look for uppercuts and hooks during clinch breaks as well as rapidly execute multiple forward-stepping punches after Machida's kicks (while Machida would be momentarily off-balance and unable to counter well). It even looked like Rampage was coached to throw fake, half-hearted kicks just to change things up a little (or else those were some of the most pathetic kicks I've seen in a long time).

Rampage, I'm a fan again and your movie was actually pretty damn good, too!

[MickeyKnox]

Ahh, it sure does feel great to wake up knowing Rampage and BJ won last night.

Ahh, fuck yeah. To all the Machida lovers and Rampage haters... your tears taste so good.



As for a rematch: NO! Not yet. They both could have a great trilogy and should fight a couple fights before meeting again, just to build it up again.

[mulefloyd]

Nice to see you're a graduate of the Koscheck School of Behavior for Winners.

[v3xi]

Was a close fight that I actually enjoyed. Anyone that knows MMA knew the fight was going to be very technical, not an all out slug fest.

I still don't understand how people are giving round 1 to Machida and when you think about it, its very ironic.

The Machida vs Shogun fight there was a huge out cry of Machida fans saying leg kicks don't mean crap and kicks are nothing blah blah but when you talk about round 1 Page vs Machida they say "omfg 4 leg kicks!!!" in defense of him winning the round. Page landed the most solid shot of the round (punch to the face) and was the aggressor and had Machida pressed up against the cage for a decent part of the round. How did Machida win round 1 is beyond me.

[Y2JUBAE]

Again, my theory: Fights going to a decision = Draw.

No fighter has the right to be mad after losing a decision, if they were truly better, they should have shown it by finishing the fight.