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Originally Posted by drake_411

That's fucked up though, one fight and IMO an early stoppage at that. Dana is a cold motha shut your mouth.

Its not like he is the fighter that he once was. His fight out of the UFC he looked like shit and last night he did not look so hot either. Karo is too much of a burden right now and after last night his stock fell to an all time low.

[MMA4EVERRR]

Originally Posted by deadstealth

Attitude shouldnt get you fired from pro fighting. Who cares how nice the guy is?

As far as that fight goes, Dan Mirgliotta definitely screwed karo. Dan, the same ref that let ONE HUNDRED, (yes 100!!!) UNANSWERED crucifix punches and elbows go without stoppage in the kelly/obrien fight....wouldnt let karo take 5 punches while karo is covered and kicking...dan is a crooked ref and its stuff like this that makes betting on mma impossible......the same ref/card where dan turns falcao's illegal RNC into a camel clutch 5 seconds after the round, then tells harris to fight...

Wouldnt say he screwed Karo over...if a fighter gets dropped by a 1-2 combo soo soft enough that it wouldnt move a punching bag, yet drops a guy like Karo, then something is physically wrong with Karo

While I agree the fight was stopped a little prematurely, Karo wasnt defending himself at all...his hands were on the mat, and not covering his face...if anything he woulda ate a few more shots and then it would be justifiably stopped...pretty much the same outcome as the Alves fight

As for the Kelly/O'Brien fight...O'Brien was moving around his body to avoid the punches and did cover up his face to avoid a good portion of the punches....and those punches were not vicious at all....nothing at all compared to the Jones/Vladimir fight

[Fedorlei Gomipierre]

Last night we were calling him Kar-dough Pillsbariyan lol.

He's got alot of roadblocks ahead of him and as of now, is dangerously close to that Carlos Newton or Joe Riggs level of "former UFC contender" marquee because he hasn't brought a good performance in what feels like three years and he looks straight BAD last night.

It really is a shame.

[Sniggles]

Originally Posted by roaddawg

You're not in the minority. Karo has given the MMA community some excellent fights and deserves a lot more respect that what he is getting from people. Hopefully he gets back to his winning ways and maybe fights under a different org (SF maybe?)

His lack of respect is due to the above statements about CURRENT work ethic, excuses and accusations. I'm sure you didn't say the same thing when Penn was being burned by the flames of the internet haters including RH. =P

[CHAEL fan]

Originally Posted by drake_411

That's fucked up though, one fight and IMO an early stoppage at that. Dana is a cold motha shut your mouth.

That was a justified stoppage...Karo shouldn't have been fighting, Dennis would have beat him within an inch of his life if the ref didn't step in.

War Superman!

[Leucoethiops]

Karo doesn't get much love, but I was hoping he would pull himself together and come back in good form.

However, my hopes were diminished when I watched the weigh-ins. He doesn't even look like he trained.

You can't expect to do well against top competition when you show up incredibly soft.

[deadstealth]

Originally Posted by MMA4EVERRR

Wouldnt say he screwed Karo over...if a fighter gets dropped by a 1-2 combo soo soft enough that it wouldnt move a punching bag, yet drops a guy like Karo, then something is physically wrong with Karo

While I agree the fight was stopped a little prematurely, Karo wasnt defending himself at all...his hands were on the mat, and not covering his face...if anything he woulda ate a few more shots and then it would be justifiably stopped...pretty much the same outcome as the Alves fight

As for the Kelly/O'Brien fight...O'Brien was moving around his body to avoid the punches and did cover up his face to avoid a good portion of the punches....and those punches were not vicious at all....nothing at all compared to the Jones/Vladimir fight

Its hard for anyone but karo to say what those punches really felt like. If the other guy connects on the right spot, and his body has the right angles going on, he doesnt need to hit karo that hard. You know, one of those punches you can feel in your shoulder and hips when it connects. Same thing bj did to huges...

karo had both hands up covering. watch it again. He was also moving his legs trying to setup a (probably unsuccessful) leglock. Covering and looking for a sub is intelligent defense. Dan stopped it early.

Cmon man....ONE HUNDRED UNANSWERED BLOWS. Do you understand what that actually means?? That might be the most consecutive blows landed in the history of combat sports. And while some of those punches from that position are weak...the elbows certainly are not. And I counted, one by one, only the blows that landed clearly, until it reached exactly 100, when dan stopped the fight. Its like dan was told "you dont stop this fight for kelly unless he lands one hundred in a row" If one fighter were to jab another fighter on the feet 100 times consecutively without any shots returned, they would stop the fight. No one should be hit 100 times before the ref stops it. 100 in a row is some of the biggest domination humanly and mathematically possible in this sport.

[Mac]

He got cut?! Does Dana know who the fuck he is?!

[carbondioxide830]

Originally Posted by roaddawg

You're not in the minority. Karo has given the MMA community some excellent fights and deserves a lot more respect that what he is getting from people. Hopefully he gets back to his winning ways and maybe fights under a different org (SF maybe?)

yessir and i dont give a fuck what people say, it WAS an early stoppage. he got hit maybe two times after that (then they let tj grant take a hundred unanswered elbows to the face?).

as far as being out of shape, karo has always had that baby fat. i've never seen the man look physically impressive, but that doesn't really mean anything.

i just dont understand the "one and done" deal w/ such a talented fighter. tyson griffin got handled for 2 fights before losing a split and he gets to keep his job? wtf?

[mmajudo]

Hi fans,

in case you have not seen the fight of Karo "The Heat" vs Dennis "Superman" from the UFC 123, here is one in great quality:

Karo Parisyan vs Dennis Hallman

Enjoy