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11-26-2010, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by b0sH Personally I put GSP very close to the Fedor category. Especially as GSP's wins are now coming in the new age of MMA vs the best possible contenders. That's not trying to piss on Fedors parade here, you beat who's in front of you in the best manner you can and he's done this over and over. But I can barely remember a moment in any recent fight where GSP has been in trouble since Serra. Too many decision victories yes, but just a complete annihilation of the top talent WW has to offer. | GSP is the closest right now. Using the "beat who is in front of you" way of thinking though, Aldo is getting closer also.
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11-26-2010, 06:50 AM
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I don't think we'll get any more Fedors.
There will always be people around that define an era but very few that define a sport like Ali did.
As MMA has grown in popularity the competition continually gets that bit harder every year as well. There will be more people training from younger ages and will now actually view MMA as a professional alternative to some of the other mainstream sports.
Personally I'm most excited by Jon Jones from the new breed. He looks massive in his weight class, strong, exciting the whole package. I'd pay a lot for him vs Shogun.
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11-26-2010, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TBEAR GSP is the closest right now. Using the "beat who is in front of you" way of thinking though, Aldo is getting closer also. | Aldo's a good call.
He'll just never get the attention he deserves from fighting in that weight class.
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11-26-2010, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by b0sH I don't think we'll get any more Fedors.
There will always be people around that define an era but very few that define a sport like Ali did.
As MMA has grown in popularity the competition continually gets that bit harder every year as well. There will be more people training from younger ages and will now actually view MMA as a professional alternative to some of the other mainstream sports.
Personally I'm most excited by Jon Jones from the new breed. He looks massive in his weight class, strong, exciting the whole package. I'd pay a lot for him vs Shogun. | No kidding man. Have you seen those kids in the Tap Out commercials?? They're like 8 and they frighten me hahaha
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11-26-2010, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by b0sH I don't think we'll get any more Fedors.
There will always be people around that define an era but very few that define a sport like Ali did.
As MMA has grown in popularity the competition continually gets that bit harder every year as well. There will be more people training from younger ages and will now actually view MMA as a professional alternative to some of the other mainstream sports.
Personally I'm most excited by Jon Jones from the new breed. He looks massive in his weight class, strong, exciting the whole package. I'd pay a lot for him vs Shogun. | Jones needs to stay away from Shogun until he gets his submission game in check. Right now I think thats the only area he needs to approve on but then again we really haven't seen him tested by anyone.
Lets see how well he does against another great striker.
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11-26-2010, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by roaddawg Jones needs to stay away from Shogun until he gets his submission game in check. Right now I think thats the only area he needs to approve on but then again we really haven't seen him tested by anyone.
Lets see how well he does against another great striker. | Thiago Silva would be a great test followed by Rashad then a title shot IMO. (That's if Rashad stays winning)
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11-26-2010, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Adambomb Isn't Anderson Silva another Fedor? He's dominated his division for about 5 years and defeated almost every relevant opponent of his generation. | I don't believe A Silva deserves to be in the same sentence as Fedor!
Silva for one is full of excuses and a crybaby. The only rematch he has agreed to is Franklin...he delays and with the help of soares, he delays fights long enough not to give rematches. He has managed to fight and win in uninspired fasion. And in a weak division that should not be the case. He in fact has made excuses for his boring fights! Wonder if he'' do the same with Okami?
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11-27-2010, 06:53 AM
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that's why through and through, Fedor will remain one of my favorite fighters...Like someone said (probably Pashak  ) Fedor can lose the next 20 fights and will be the greatest MMA fighter ever!
To me, it's his dedication to the Russian people, the SPORT of MMA in Russia (something Dana White doesn't do in the States, he prefers it to be boxing/WWE), and overall his reluctance to be a tool or a pawn...he lives in an apartment provided that he has millions of dollars, he hangs out with the same friends he has for years despite knowing Putin, Van Damme and the like. To me, all these things make an amazing human being, and Fedor will forever be the MMA fighter model I strive to be in my personal life...
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11-27-2010, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by snakebite I think you guys are missing the point. Someone said anderson is like a fedor?! HOW?! This thread is regarding his personal prowess. How he handles himself as a person with integrity before a fighter trying to get paid. Fuck no anderson isnt close to fedor, hes a great fighter but his antics and being disrespectful is something fedor would never do. I have no idea how ANYONE can bash fedor as a fighter. He has such good fighting talent he could easily talk as much shit as possible and get a free pass. Look at brock, he isnt even good and people still just put up with his bullshit. When fedor says he cares about god,family and his country before his legacy or fight career he really means it. That takes a VERY strong and genuine person to say that and truly mean it. The sport would 100% benefit from more fighters like fedor, after all the more you care about what your fighting for, the better you will fight and strive to become a better fighter. There is NO more respectful fighter in any organization today then fedor. | Ding Ding Ding!!! We have winner! Thanks for catching that. I should have clarified things a bit more, my bad...
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11-27-2010, 11:57 PM
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To have more people like Fedor would be a great benefit for MMA as a sport, what makes fedor so special is that aside of his extraordinary fighting skills he is also an extraordinary human being.
I am not saying that he is perfect, he also has his defaults like any other human being, but his way to treat other people, his way of thinking, of acting shows that he is someone special. There are not at all many people like him on this world.
I am sure Fedor would not betray someone, he would not use a person for some personal benefit and then forget about that person, he is extremely respectful, and he remains respectful even to people that talk shit to him.
However he also has his own pride, he never forgets where does he come from, and he will never betray his ideas or principles just for money.
He is one of the few fighters that indeed care for development of MMA, obviously he fights for money, its his job, but it is not the main reason of why he fights.
He fights in the first place for his country, he fights because he wants to put Russia in a high level, he does not care at all about fame, about being millionaire and all that stuff.
Many people complain that he is not famous enough in USA, well aside of USA there are also countries like japan where MMA is a popular sport and every MMA fan there knows Fedor, he is an icon there. Also he is very famous in Korea and in many european countries, so you think that it bothers him that the casual ameriacn fans dont know who he is? Obviously not!
As Arthur said, he knows people like Putin, JCVD, Tyson and so many other celebrities however he continues to hang with friends of his infance. He has enough money to live like a king in places like Las vegas, Chicago or NYC however he prefers to live in his appartment in Stary Oskol, a city that even many russians dont know it exists. He has enough money to buy Porsches and Ferraris, however he drives his Toyota.
I am not saying that those things makes him better than other people, but it clearly shows that his mentality is so different and that money is not the most important thing for him in life.
If more fighters were like him, I am sure that a lot of people would stop seeing this sport as a brutal carnage between 2 savages inside a cage, but would begin to see it as a sport.
Apparently he will still fight for about 3 more years before retirement, anything can happen in those 3 years, he may fight 5 times in that period of time and lose all the 5 fights but that does not matter anymore. Because in a decade he has done enough to be considered a legend of this sport and the best MMA fighter in history.
Ignorant dumbfucks are always going to hate and say that most of his wins are cans but people that understand MMA and has been watching it for some years knows that he has faced a lot of tough competition (also some can here and there but most of his wins are against pretty serious fighters).
In terms of level skills probably one day there are going to be fighters that will also achieve records of 30-1, MMA is developping and everytime there are better and better fighters, but I dont know if we will ever see someone that aside of being an excellent fighter is also a that great human being.
So yes, the more Fedors we have, the better. problem is that I doubt very much that we will ever see someone like Fedor again.
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