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[v3xi]

Originally Posted by carbondioxide830

i realize styles make fights and if you ask me, jorge truly is tailor made for bisping, but he asked for this fight - it wasn't spoon fed to bisping. i truly do not understand the bisping hate that most americans have. sure, he's an asshole, but so are 80% of all american fighters. i find it to be more confidence than it is cockiness. his footwork, his counter ability, and the fact that he's just the more overall well rounded fighter leads me to believe this is his for the taking.

Overall Bisping does not know how to circle the opposite way of an opponents right hand. The only thing Bisping is well rounded in is being over hyped.

[jlruthven84]

Point-by-point:

1) Bisping/Rashad. That was before Rashad became the much more complete fighter that he is today. He'd murder Bisping at this point.

2) Bisping/Kang. Kang's a choker. We know this. Dude is a BJJ black belt and accomplished striker who brain-farted during his UFC debut against Belcher, went to an uninspired decision against "Professor X" (Who? Exactly.), and then proceeded to get outwrestled, OUTWRESTLED, by Bisping. Oh, and he gift-wrapped a triangle choke to Mousasi.

3) Bisping/Silva. Silva is not the fighter he once was, and his wild brawling style, while effective, is not technically sound.

My point is this: Rivera seems to be on something of a surge. He has crisp, technical boxing coupled with KO power, which Bisping lacks, and his ground game is competent enough to keep him out of trouble there. Rivera's not a lock by any means, but this is a bad matchup for Bisping.

[carbondioxide830]

obviously it doesnt matter what arguments i make or how many facts i bring up. the rebuttals are always the same: bisping is over hyped.

in 6-8 months when we're talking about bispings next fight, jorge rivera will be a "spoon-fed" opponent, too old, renowned gatekeeper, not on the same level, and (to quote dana white) a laundry lists of other excuses as to why bisping some how, managed to win. i digress.

[jlruthven84]

Originally Posted by carbondioxide830

obviously it doesnt matter what arguments i make or how many facts i bring up. the rebuttals are always the same: bisping is over hyped.

in 6-8 months when we're talking about bispings next fight, jorge rivera will be a "spoon-fed" opponent, too old, renowned gatekeeper, not on the same level, and (to quote dana white) a laundry lists of other excuses as to why bisping some how, managed to win. i digress.

Bisping's a good fighter, but he IS overhyped. His best win was against Denis Kang, who was cut immediately thereafter. On top of that, signs are pointing to him underestimating Rivera. Not good.

[Adambomb]

Originally Posted by jlruthven84

Point-by-point:

1) Bisping/Rashad. That was before Rashad became the much more complete fighter that he is today. He'd murder Bisping at this point.

2) Bisping/Kang. Kang's a choker. We know this. Dude is a BJJ black belt and accomplished striker who brain-farted during his UFC debut against Belcher, went to an uninspired decision against "Professor X" (Who? Exactly.), and then proceeded to get outwrestled, OUTWRESTLED, by Bisping. Oh, and he gift-wrapped a triangle choke to Mousasi.

3) Bisping/Silva. Silva is not the fighter he once was, and his wild brawling style, while effective, is not technically sound.

My point is this: Rivera seems to be on something of a surge. He has crisp, technical boxing coupled with KO power, which Bisping lacks, and his ground game is competent enough to keep him out of trouble there. Rivera's not a lock by any means, but this is a bad matchup for Bisping.

And all those fighters would crush Nate Quarry (07 Rashad included), who is the best guy Rivera has beaten in years. It's easy for your boxing to look crisp against an opponent with literally no head movement.

Look at what happened against Leben: Bisping outclassed him, & Jorge got KTFO.

In this case, Rivera is the guy that's overrated because of his style. He's yet to prove it against elite competition. If Bisping could survive Wanderlei, he'll survive Rivera.

[Sakara=Excitement]

I've been hearing this crap since Jorge and Alessio were gonna fight and that's this muth that Jorge has this great technical boxing style and his hands are the best thing since sliced bread. Does Jorge have power? Of course. Is he technical? A retarded kid with down syndrome on top of his retardedness is more technical.

[CHAEL fan]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

I've been hearing this crap since Jorge and Alessio were gonna fight and that's this muth that Jorge has this great technical boxing style and his hands are the best thing since sliced bread. Does Jorge have power? Of course. Is he technical? A retarded kid with down syndrome on top of his retardedness is more technical.

A retarded kid with down syndrome on top of his retardedness is more technical. Real grown up statement from you, you fucking jackass.

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by CHAEL fan

A retarded kid with down syndrome on top of his retardedness is more technical. Real grown up statement from you, you fucking jackass.

You're kidding right?

How's that cancer thing working out for Lance?

[CHAEL fan]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

You're kidding right?

How's that cancer thing working out for Lance?

How's Sakara skipping another fight working out?

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by CHAEL fan

How's Sakara skipping another fight working out?

I guess about as well as Chael testing positive for PED's. I just found it extremely hypocritical that you can back a fighter who says the things he does and then get mad at me for joking and then try and take a personal jab at me somehow with Sakara. I'm not the one ChaelFan. If you want some beef we can continue this. I'm not looking for it but best believe I won't run away.