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12-04-2010, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by vegas bushido Yes what a terrible article! People claiming GSP is the GOAT after crushing everyone in the division and some twice! Fucking clown writer. | lol. I like the sarcasm honestly. It's my style. However, can you really call anyone the GOAT while they're still fighting, and still haven't set a record for title defenses? can you?
Let me say this; I hope no one neg'ed the guy for writing this, because although I don't agree, he wrote a well thought out thread. Yeah he's swinging from GSP's balls , but that's all good.
GSP can NOT be the GOAT. Is he the best WW right now. Hell Yeah! But the GOAT? Give it some time, and this pipe dream may become reality. And you can tell all of the doubters to suck it. But not yet.
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12-04-2010, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by KnowledgeKnown lol. I like the sarcasm honestly. It's my style. However, can you really call anyone the GOAT while they're still fighting, and still haven't set a record for title defenses? can you?
Let me say this; I hope no one neg'ed the guy for writing this, because although I don't agree, he wrote a well thought out thread. Yeah he's swinging from GSP's balls , but that's all good.
GSP can NOT be the GOAT. Is he the best WW right now. Hell Yeah! But the GOAT? Give it some time, and this pipe dream may become reality. And you can tell all of the doubters to suck it. But not yet. | But who do you call the greatest of all time then if all the greats are still fighting? Royce Gracie? Keith Hackney? Kimo? Scott Ferozzo? Personally I think Fedor is but.....he is still fighting too.
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12-04-2010, 08:48 PM
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GSP is the greatest for the same reason Strikeforce is the best promotion in the world: coolness factor
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12-05-2010, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rivethead I'm betting Arona would take the opportunity to point out that the slam should never had happened, in that he had jackson KO'd in his guard and the crackhead/crooked ref didn't stop the fight, even when Arona stopped striking, looked back and told him he was out. Then he'd point out that the slam wasn't what KO'd him, it was the inadvertent head butt at the end of it, and show you the teeth marks to prove it.
rh | c-mon riverhead....rampage was OUT? Please look at the fight again! The triangle was loose. When arona finaly got it tighter rampage slamed him. Now this is a span of ten seconds. NO way rampage was out. Sure his head hit him with the slam....but nonetheless...it was one for the ages! Quote:
Originally Posted by goodtimes Did you really need to ask what a highlight reel has to do with anything? If it wasn't for Jon Jones' ability to pull off crazy moves left and right, no one would care about him. Tons of people are considering him invincible because he beat a few top 20 LHW's in spectacular fashion.
People are riding the GSP bandwagon now, but if he gets stopped by Kos, his achievements will look pretty miniscule when compared to what Wanderlei+Anderson Silva, Chuck Liddell, and Fedor have done in their prime. | Miniscule. SO Wandy's run was great but there was no drug testing in pride back then..Wandy had veins on top of veins and zits the size of golf balls on him..let's not mention his aggresiveness. He was roiding in my eyes. A silva has face many decent fighters and many many cans. Liddell....did Fantastic agaisnt wrestlers...He was NEVER good at fighting strikers...and it reared it's ugly head when he had to. Fedor has accomplished the most out of all of them. But you can't ignore the fact that his record has the most cans EVER!
I'm canadian so my opinion here will probably be overlooked. GSP is fighting the new breed of fighters and winning. The Wandy of old kept fighting the same guys over and over. Same with Fedor...Nog three times...Lindland?..and I don't want to get into the travelling circuss guys he has fought. A Silva doesn't give rematched and that is a weakness! (Rich franklin..the only one..Kinda like Liddell fighting tito over and over and over)
What I'm trying to say is that when Fedor ws fighting the only good heavywights were Nog and Mirco. A Silva's division is WEAK..Wandy was roiding and beating up smaller fighters. GSP Is fighter guys with amazing training camps..conditioning...the new breed. To dominate the new breed of fighters is something amazing.
My P4P/GOAT list of entries: these are not in any particular order but After each of these guys fight again it will be clearer.
Gsp
Fedor (dependant of next fight)
A silva-WEAKEST division ever. please Cote...Leites...Maia..leben..lutter..james irvin?...the list is pathetic fro a man considered the best!
Bj-slipping
Aldo-needs a fight at 155 to gage him
Edgar (Dependant of next fight)
Cain V-(dependant of next fight)
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12-05-2010, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FFFRpickup c-mon riverhead....rampage was OUT? Please look at the fight again! The triangle was loose. When arona finaly got it tighter rampage slamed him. Now this is a span of ten seconds. NO way rampage was out. Sure his head hit him with the slam....but nonetheless...it was one for the ages! | Rampage was out.
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12-05-2010, 12:33 PM
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yeah, I'm the one who needs to watch that fight again.
I'm not saying it wasn't a crazy highlight reel. I'm saying the ref was either crooked or criminally incompetent.
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12-05-2010, 03:03 PM
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I am pretty sure Chris Lytle's highlight reel would be up there with any of the greats and I would never once consider him one of the sports best.
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12-05-2010, 04:43 PM
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GSP is an excellent fighter, a straight up dude, and hell he might very well be a Canadian Super Soldier! He's certain to go down as one of the all time greatest MMA fighters and more specifically WW champions to ever step in the cage. He isn't the GOAT tho, that's Fedor. I don't understand how anyone could possibly see it any other way.
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12-05-2010, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ERIK Bruhn I am pretty sure Chris Lytle's highlight reel would be up there with any of the greats and I would never once consider him one of the sports best. | Um, no it wouldn't.
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12-06-2010, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by FFFRpickup c-mon riverhead....rampage was OUT? Please look at the fight again! The triangle was loose. When arona finaly got it tighter rampage slamed him. Now this is a span of ten seconds. NO way rampage was out. Sure his head hit him with the slam....but nonetheless...it was one for the ages! | I think rampage was out several minutes before the slam happened. He recovered, the fight went on, then later that round the slam happened. I'm leavig it up to you to find out if I'm right or not, but that might help.
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