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[Fedorlei Gomipierre]

I think it's a tossup between Cain and Overeem personally, because Alistair's K1 accomplishment is an amazing feat and he's got an amazing run of MMA dominance, that is right now only rivalled by Cain's UFC run and after GSP's shutout tonight, I think it's between those three.....

[smoogy]

He went 5-0 in K-1, won the WGP, defended his SF title and the best MMA film in 2010 is the ongoing documentary about him. By any practical measure, he is fighter of the year.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre

I think it's a tossup between Cain and Overeem personally, because Alistair's K1 accomplishment is an amazing feat and he's got an amazing run of MMA dominance, that is right now only rivalled by Cain's UFC run and after GSP's shutout tonight, I think it's between those three.....

His amazing run of MMA dominance includes exactly one top 20 fighter.

One.

No top 5's. No top 10's. one guy who was on the fringes of top 10, but coming off the first defeat of his career. Nobody else is even close to being ranked.

Shit like that--from an otherwise intelligent poster--is why I have very little use for AO. He's definitely elite K1, he's smoke and mirrors in MMA.

Originally Posted by smoogy

He went 5-0 in K-1, won the WGP, defended his SF title and the best MMA film in 2010 is the ongoing documentary about him. By any practical measure, he is fighter of the year.

As far as ongoing documentaries, I'll take what I've seen of Pulver's Driven over that Reem stuff.

rh

[SimpleJack]

Now we're having a discussion.

I have to say I'm with Smoogy here.

The guy's still a front-runner who clams up when rattled (Spong had him and he completely shut down) but he is still the fighter of the year.

[CHAEL fan]

I'll take Manny any day of the week over Uber....Pacq. deserves it more.

[The Donosaur]

it Depends on how you look at it GSP won 2 fights to retain his title without a scratch on him, out coached Kos on TUF, & is quickly becoming the most mainstrem fighter ever (Gatorade commercials & what not)...As far as big wins go gotta go with Werdum #1, Edgar #2, Cain #3...but there are also plenty of reasons to go with Overeem, Manny (if boxers count), & Anderson Silva (I love Sonnen but the come from behind victory is the stuff legends are made of)...I'm gonna go with GSP if the external aspects count & if not I can't decide between Cain or Frankie...

[IceCold48]

i voted no bc this poll is on the general mma forum so i figured the poll was directed towards mma.

[goodtimes]

Originally Posted by DonFrye

I haven't yet seen a compelling argument as to why he isn't the FIGHTER of the year.

Love or hate him (RH), no one has come close to doing what he's done.

I am no fan and personally think his striking is amateurish. However, he holds a title in 2 major fight sports organizations in 2 separate sports. That's like any other champ winning ADCC and defending his title the same year.

You seriously need to come up with a reason as to why his striking is amateurish... That really comes out of no where. K-1 is the premier striking league in the world, and to say the guy who won the most recent GP and has done well in the past is amateurish is kind of mind boggling.

But I do agree with the rest of the post, most people just disregard Overeem's K-1 accomplishments and his MMA fights but he's been very active and very successful in 2 sports.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by goodtimes

You seriously need to come up with a reason as to why his striking is amateurish... That really comes out of no where. K-1 is the premier striking league in the world, and to say the guy who won the most recent GP and has done well in the past is amateurish is kind of mind boggling.

But I do agree with the rest of the post, most people just disregard Overeem's K-1 accomplishments and his MMA fights but he's been very active and very successful in 2 sports.

His striking isn't amateurish. His K1 accomplishments are clearly elite-level.

But he fought once in MMA this year. That's not active. He didn't fight either of the fighters ranked above him in his org, he fought a guy coming off a brutal knockout, who is a stand-and-bang brawler, perfect for him to beat.

I'm not saying he's not a great striker. I'm saying he's not a great MMA fighter, until he does something--anything--to prove it.

So yes, he's clearly an elite K1 fighter. But Pacquiao is a better boxer--and faced better opponents--than AO is a kickboxer. GSP is a better MMA artist--and faced better opponents--than AO is a kickboxer.

People focusing on the fact that he's a beltholder in SF are giving that belt more legs than it deserves. He beat a not-even-top-20 Buentello to get it, declined to defend it for 3 years while he beat a shopping cart full of dented cans in a place where they don't test for PEDs, and then comes back to defend it against Rogers...that doesn't spell legitimacy. That spells bullshit belt in a poorly administered org. And if you don't think it's bullshit, try to come up with an answer as to why there are two or three fighters ranked above the champion in Strikeforce, and ask yourself how you'd view the UFC WW belt if Condit held it.

A GP win--a Hari-less GP, where his only real competition was a beat-up Aerts--and a sham belt do not equate to fighter of the year.

rh

rh

[SimpleJack]

Originally Posted by goodtimes

You seriously need to come up with a reason as to why his striking is amateurish... That really comes out of no where. K-1 is the premier striking league in the world, and to say the guy who won the most recent GP and has done well in the past is amateurish is kind of mind boggling.

Maybe I should have qualified and said his technique....

Simply put, in every exchange, he bull-rushes in with a forearm defense, attempts a knee then throws a couple of punches on the inside.

Now, did I say his accomplishments were unimpressive- NO. He's even getting BETTER with every tournament. He actually threw a few thigh kicks and knees to the body this last time out.

His technique fits him, but it is amateurish.