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Before the UFC reality show I was a huge fan of Shamrock. I even rooted for him when he went against Ortiz in the first fight and was seriously disappointed by the loss. But is it just me or did the show really expose what a huge dick Shamrock is and what a really nice and caring guy Ortiz really is????!!!!

Not only that but the show really showed how narrow minded Shamrock is when it comes to Ultimate fighting. He literally is not willing to grow as a fighter and discounts the whole ground attack element of Ultimate fighting. He never really seemed to teach his fighters much of anything except conditioning and even when it came to that he was lackadaisacal cuz his fighters were easily winded. Ortiz on the other handed worked with his fighters had compassion for them win or lose and usually was the recepient of Shamrock's jawwing at him rather than the instigator.

I hope Ortiz knocks this stubborn jerk of a dinosaur out in the up coming fight. Shamrock is egotistical thinks he knows it all and yet derides Ortiz as if he is the jerk when it is the opposite.

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[FidgitUK]

I know what you mean. Personally I was a fan of both before the show, all the show did was make me like Tito even more.. Shamrock now,not so much.

[Riverspeed2d]

Tito was an even bigger jerk before! He is a nice guy, he was himself on the show, but he's only started respecting the other fighters recently, the only problem is it's too late.
Ken was obviously upset from the last fight and of the comments or whatever it was Tito kept bringing up to upset him, so all he remembers from this guy is how he humiliated him in the pass.
He's alot younger and you know how the older guys don't wanna be outshined or upstaged by the younger kid, make em think that their time is up, so it's really him trying to get his respect back, why should he bow down to this guy who treated him like a jerk in the pass.

[killerinstinct]

you didn't see the real tito on the show it was a fucking act.I went to the battle at the brady recently and Ken sat right by me only 3 seats different. I was all trying to get his autograph but his security guys were with him the whole time i saw him later and asked for picture he said that his security guys wouldn't let him.It was funny though b/c everyone was all cheering tito and he was getting pissed!!!!!He stepped in the ring and he was all like"all the tito fans are in the back b/c they're too afraid to say that to my face"or some shit like that he was talking a hell of smack.I still hope he beats Tito's bitch ass.

[mattsoper]

they both just bore me now.....I kinda want to see shamrock win becauase I think that would be both their last fights

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by killerinstinct

you didn't see the real tito on the show it was a fucking act.I went to the battle at the brady recently and Ken sat right by me only 3 seats different. I was all trying to get his autograph but his security guys were with him the whole time i saw him later and asked for picture he said that his security guys wouldn't let him.It was funny though b/c everyone was all cheering tito and he was getting pissed!!!!!He stepped in the ring and he was all like"all the tito fans are in the back b/c they're too afraid to say that to my face"or some shit like that he was talking a hell of smack.I still hope he beats Tito's bitch ass.

You are delusional if you think Tito was acting....did you not see the pic with all those guys in it? You must be really nieve if you believe that Ken couldnt sign an autograph because of body guards...the dude is a fucking fighter, why would he need body guards?

[Alvin]

I've just watched the LHW semi finals & they showed the spat at the end with Shamrock & Ortiz & I couldn't help feel that it was a bit WWE.

It amazes me how many fighters HATE Shamrock.
Royce Gracie
Don Frye
Dan Severn
Tito Ortiz
Tank Abbot (but then he hates everyone!)

Im sure the list goes on & on (I know Frank Shamrock has his problems with him) whether Ortiz is acting or not ( I highly doubt it though) he's still a lot classier than Ken as proven when he went to Pointon after his fight with Bisping.

[Afro]

I believe we did see the real Tito problem is thats not the Tito we see in the UFC, the Tito we see in the UFC makes disrespectul remarks like "ima retire him" and he does disrespectul gestures after a fight and talks a lot of shit

the Ken on the show was normal Ken, only cares about himself.. im sure he would of cared for the fighters if he had taken this seriously, but we all know he only did TUF 3 just to fight Tito again so he took the motivation route instead of actually training his guys.. lost a lot of respect for him but I still dislike Tito more.

[killerinstinct]

Originally Posted by Anthony

You are delusional if you think Tito was acting....did you not see the pic with all those guys in it? You must be really nieve if you believe that Ken couldnt sign an autograph because of body guards...the dude is a fucking fighter, why would he need body guards?

know i didn't think he couldn't sign my autograph i was pretty pissed to be honest with you.

[Anthony]

Well you should rethink what kind of person that Ken is. Now, im sure if you handed him 200 bucks with a piece of paper and a pen, then you would have gotten that autograph.