Originally Posted by pantomime horse
I don't know. Beating Hendo was impressive, but Miller (while I'm a fan) hasn't proven himself yet and Lawler isn't a top fighter, imo.
I'll take Silva's accomplishments over Shiields' though I will say that Jake has the perfect opportunity to make use of his grappling skills to stun MMA fans around the world. A win over GSP would be huge and then nobody could question his abilities.
In my opinion, moving up to beat Lawler [who hovers around the fringes of top 15 at MW] is a far, far better win than Silva over Irvin. Career-wise, Lawler wasn't nearly as inconsistent as Irvin has been, he was the last standing EXC MW champ and was on something like a 5 or 6 fight win streak. It was a very big deal at the time, Lawler was supposed to walk through Jake. It's similar to the Anderson/Irvin fight in that both Silva and Shields "moved up" to beat guys they're physically bigger then. It's dissimilar to the Silva/Irvin fight in that Robbie was not actively addicted to narcotics at the time.
The Miller win was a great win, in that he effectively controlled a bigger, stronger fighter who also hovers around the edges of top 15-10. The Henderson win is a bigger accomplishment than Forrest, in my opinion. Both have been inconsistent in their careers, but Dan has reached heights Forrest has not, and has beaten better competition than Forrest has. I had Henderson ranked #2 at MW going into the fight.
As for wrestlers, I find Fitch to be almost unbearable to watch. He takes opponents down and basically works for dominant positions as if he is strictly wrestling. Sonnen and Edgar stay busy, utilizing different aspects of their skill sets so I don't mind watching them fight at all. Why Chael would disrespect Edgar is beyond me. If he is going to simply bash everyone he isn't affiliated with his 'game' is going to get old fast.
I don't find Fitch unbearable, but I watch wrestling [not that WWE dreck], so I'm ok with it. I get what I expect from him.
Sonnen talks because he thinks it keeps him relevant, and I'm convinced he has a disorder.
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