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12-21-2010, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Black I don't buy that... I don't like either of them but Chael would destroy him... | I agree with you that Chael will win this fight....but you don't like Silva? I honestly can't imagine why anybody would not like Wanderlei Silva, but regardless I respect your opinion.
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12-21-2010, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Black If Anderson couldn't caught Cheal with anything(except that elbow lol) I highly doubt that Wandy can... | He caught him with a triangle choke, which Wandy is more then capable of doing.
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12-21-2010, 12:32 PM
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This would be an awesome fight IF Wanderlei can manage to defend the takedown, however I just dont see that happening. But who knows, if he practices a triangle choke or two he shouldn't have too much of a problem. I joke, I joke. Anyway, apparently Chael went on a twitter rant about Wand after his 'killing' comments, read below: Quote:
- “You killed who? I was taking it easy on you. Ya looked like Tammy Faye Baker. I went easy so that new face of yours wouldn’t fall off.
- More guys have worked on your face than it took to build the Pyramids. You look like Lisa Rinna w/a Leprechaun beard, you fool.
- You are a walking punchline. Go fight what’s left of Sakuraba in an alley behind a sushi place in Tokyo for 10 Yen apiece.
- If it wasn’t for me, you would be thrashing around the jungle w/a blowgun trying’ to catch breakfast.
- So a word to the UNWISE. DON’T TALK ABOUT ME. You don’t have the words, I DO. You just got burried. Now run along or I’ll do worse tomorrow.
- Wanna talk some more about killing me in the gym, y’idiot?
- You’re lucky your brother Joe’s the matchmaker or you’d be sellin’ barbecued monkey on the street in Manaus.”
| Some genius one-liners in there.
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12-21-2010, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Black If Anderson couldn't caught Cheal with anything(except that elbow lol) I highly doubt that Wandy can... Quote:
Originally Posted by KevoOnTheRadio He caught him with a triangle choke, which Wandy is more then capable of doing. | | can't caught? is that even English?
I think you're assuming that Anderson has a better ground game than Wandi, and I would caution that's a pretty foolish assumption. Anderson has a BJJ BB from the Nogs, Wandi got his from Carlos. Both have BB's in Judo.
It also should be mentioned--as KevO ppointed out--that "Cheal" did get caught in a choke, and that--while Anderson's ribs weren't broken, as his fanboys would have you believe--he got caught by the worst-looking Anderson that we've seen in the UFC.
I think the fight is 50/50 at this point, particularly in light of how Sonnen's HRT might affect the fight. If they coach TUF, the fight is going to be in Nevada, and Kizer is already pissed at Sonnen for attempting to justify his oversight by stating he'd been cleared with HRT in Nevada, which is bullshit. I highly doubt Kizer is going to rubber-stamp the therapy based on the recommendation of some quack who isn't even an endocrinologist.
That could have an impact on Sonnen's performance in two ways: If he's actually 100% legitimate and not lying [hope nobody was drinking as they read that and the mere concept made shit come out their nose] he's got extra hoops to jump through just to get on a level-playing field, with the added concern that if he comes in even a tad high, he's risking getting pulled from the card; and if he's as full-of-shit about this as he has been about other statements he's made, he's going to have to convince a highly skeptical [and ideally more informed than the CA panel] of his fake need...and still with the understanding that if he comes in testing even a bit high, he's likely to be pulled from the card.
So if he needs to use it, he's going to need to be very careful. If he's using it as a PED, he's probably screwed, which is good.
Unless Kizer fucks this up, as he's fucked up so many things in the past.
anyway, I haven't written Wandi out of the picture. He's been on his back before with more dangerous grapplers, and he's done fine.
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12-21-2010, 01:07 PM
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^^^ Those quotes had me laughing my ass off, Danc.
That's why I love Chael.
But I love Wandy, too.
I think it would be a good fight to watch, although, keeping in mind that Wandy is out of his prime.
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12-21-2010, 01:11 PM
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- “You killed who? I was taking it easy on you. Ya looked like Tammy Faye Baker. I went easy so that new face of yours wouldn’t fall off.
- More guys have worked on your face than it took to build the Pyramids. You look like Lisa Rinna w/a Leprechaun beard, you fool.
- You are a walking punchline. Go fight what’s left of Sakuraba in an alley behind a sushi place in Tokyo for 10 Yen apiece.
- If it wasn’t for me, you would be thrashing around the jungle w/a blowgun trying’ to catch breakfast.
- So a word to the UNWISE. DON’T TALK ABOUT ME. You don’t have the words, I DO. You just got burried. Now run along or I’ll do worse tomorrow.
- Wanna talk some more about killing me in the gym, y’idiot?
- You’re lucky your brother Joe’s the matchmaker or you’d be sellin’ barbecued monkey on the street in Manaus.”
| BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
Whats even funnier, is Wandy doesn't understand half of what Chael says.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
THAT WAS FUCKING FUNNY
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12-21-2010, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rivethead can't caught? is that even English?
I think you're assuming that Anderson has a better ground game than Wandi, and I would caution that's a pretty foolish assumption. Anderson has a BJJ BB from the Nogs, Wandi got his from Carlos. Both have BB's in Judo.
It also should be mentioned--as KevO ppointed out--that "Cheal" did get caught in a choke, and that--while Anderson's ribs weren't broken, as his fanboys would have you believe--he got caught by the worst-looking Anderson that we've seen in the UFC.
I think the fight is 50/50 at this point, particularly in light of how Sonnen's HRT might affect the fight. If they coach TUF, the fight is going to be in Nevada, and Kizer is already pissed at Sonnen for attempting to justify his oversight by stating he'd been cleared with HRT in Nevada, which is bullshit. I highly doubt Kizer is going to rubber-stamp the therapy based on the recommendation of some quack who isn't even an endocrinologist.
That could have an impact on Sonnen's performance in two ways: If he's actually 100% legitimate and not lying [hope nobody was drinking as they read that and the mere concept made shit come out their nose] he's got extra hoops to jump through just to get on a level-playing field, with the added concern that if he comes in even a tad high, he's risking getting pulled from the card; and if he's as full-of-shit about this as he has been about other statements he's made, he's going to have to convince a highly skeptical [and ideally more informed than the CA panel] of his fake need...and still with the understanding that if he comes in testing even a bit high, he's likely to be pulled from the card.
So if he needs to use it, he's going to need to be very careful. If he's using it as a PED, he's probably screwed, which is good.
Unless Kizer fucks this up, as he's fucked up so many things in the past.
anyway, I haven't written Wandi out of the picture. He's been on his back before with more dangerous grapplers, and he's done fine.
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couldn't caught or ? damn I really thought that I wrote that correct...
sry bro I didn't read the rest, it was way too long...
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12-21-2010, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Black couldn't caught or ? damn I really thought that I wrote that correct...
sry bro I didn't read the rest, it was way too long... | .....and polysyllabic.
I completely agree with Rivethead. Sonnen's antics won't do him any favors with the powers that be regarding his current situation, and IF he can't win any meaningful fights in the future with accepted Testosterone levels he will be known as a farce. Wand has the potential to end this fight with a KO and possibly a sub. It's time Chael learns some humility.
I like the guy I think he's funny and talented and wish him the best of luck in his career, but he's fighting Wanderlei Silva. I've never pulled against him, never will. He's my Crocop.
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12-21-2010, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Black If Anderson couldn't caught Cheal with anything(except that elbow lol) I highly doubt that Wandy can... | ^^^^^ The number one reason hooked on phonics tanked
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12-21-2010, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DayneFS ^^^ Those quotes had me laughing my ass off, Danc.
That's why I love Chael.
But I love Wandy, too.
I think it would be a good fight to watch, although, keeping in mind that Wandy is out of his prime. | Wand has been out of his prime since Pride Final Conflict Absolute.
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