I forgot about Lindland submitting the Michael Jordan of BJJ.
As for, Miller submitting Sakuraba. I think both are legit on the ground obviously. Miller encompasses BJJ whereas Sakuraba was probably the best catch wrestler in all of MMA. He was very successful in using his tools to combat against BJJ. I think this falls more in line with the Fedor/Werdum win.... more of a shock that he got submitted but not due to the credibility of the opponent.
Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement
That is a pretty legit list right there. What about these?
- Hughes chokes out Almedia (Although Hughes doesnt have a black belt, he sure should)
- Urijah Faber choking out Assuncao.
- Jim Miller taps out Oliveria (I know Miller is a black belt but Oliveria had so much hype behind him and Miller tapped him fairly easily)
Hughes choking out Almeida was a huge upset on the ground. I did not think that was going to happen at all, especially out cold like that.
Faber and Benavidez are both pretty good on the ground considering both don't have that high credentials in BJJ. I think Faber is a purple belt, not sure about Benavidez but Benavidez has upset two legit black belts in Fabiano and Torres.
Miller tapping out Oliveira is a bit tricky. I think Oliveira is great on the ground, and has great explosive submissions and transitions, but I'm wondering in terms of credentials if it's really that uneven. Both got their black belts around the same time (in the summer of this year I believe), although Oliveira has titles in BJJ tournaments as a blue belt and a purple belt. I still don't think its that crazy of a difference between the two.