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[built1052]

Because he looks like he could compete at 135. He's little. It bothers me.

[Adambomb]

Frankie Edgar doesn't finish fights against elite competition. He's an incredible athlete and an extraordinary fighter, but he just isn't that exciting.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by TBEAR

^^^^all the post above is what the article is talking about. Noone respects Frankie.

He beat BJ twice and is a hell of a fighter with real skills. If he is to fast moving for you to watch then try and figure out how to fight him. He is a hard guy to prepare for.

There is also no rule that says you have to finish a fight to be the champ....so I dont buy that "has to finish a fight" bulls*&T

There is no rule that fighters with talent automatically get respected and admired. Machida is a fighter with tremendous skills, but for the bulk of his career, he fought not to lose--he didn't fight to win. As soon as he scored some KO's, his bandwagon got a tune-up and a new coat of paint.

There are a select group of fans who can admire a fighter simply for the skill they employ in a fight, but a vast majority of fans--particularly the new, uneducated group that Zuffa pulled from WWE by signing lesnar--want to simply be entertained. They don't want to learn, they want to see guys stand in the pocket till one of them gets knocked out. They're not going to appreciate a guy like Frankie.

Frankie has skills, but they only become elite with his peck-and-run game plan. He's a smart fighter who doesn't take risks, which is a nice way to win decisions, but it's not a great way to win fans. As an increasing portion of the demographic focuses entirely on entertainment, he's not doing himself any favors.

I look at Frankie the exact same way I look at Fitch, or Sherk, or any of the other guys ignorant fans accuse of laying and praying. I don't watch their fights to be excited. I don't expect them to stand in the pocket, I don't expect them to take any unnecessary risks. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate their efforts.



For the record, Edgar lost the first Penn fight.

rh

[bottlerocks]

Originally Posted by rivethead

I look at Frankie the exact same way I look at Fitch, or Sherk, or any of the other guys ignorant fans accuse of laying and praying. I don't watch their fights to be excited. I don't expect them to stand in the pocket, I don't expect them to take any unnecessary risks. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate their efforts.



For the record, Edgar lost the first Penn fight.

I feel the same way, except I also watch their fights in hopes that someone can figure out a way to negate their abilities. The Edgar reign as LW champion isn't going to be any less impressive to me than any other, but it sure as hell is going to be more boring. There's a fine line between appreciating and caring.

And Penn definitely won that first fight, but I'm sort of glad Edgar got a rematch in a twisted way. Someone needs to figure out his game and put an end to it.

[H33LHooK]

So let me get this straight. A champion who displays...

- great movement (feints, head, in-and-out, as well as confusing level changes)

- quick feet

- ever-improving striking

- nice take-downs/slams

- energy for days

... is boring?

Guess what other champ, who just fought and won, displayed this exact same style?

I would pay to watch Edgar fight all day, and submit that those who are saying that they don't/won't pay to watch him had paradoxically better pray that he wins his upcoming fight, because if you find his style boring...

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[KillahKimbo]

Dominick Cruz?

[H33LHooK]

Originally Posted by KillahKimbo

Dominick Cruz?

That's definitely one.

Here's another: GSP.

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Originally Posted by rivethead

For the record, (in my opinion) Edgar lost the first Penn fight.

rh

Edited for accuracy.

[bottlerocks]

Originally Posted by H33LHooK

That's definitely one.

Here's another: GSP.

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Couldn't disagree more. When did Frankie do anything remotely comparable? Josh is out of commission until mid-2011.

[Xanatos]

Originally Posted by rivethead

For the record, Edgar lost the first Penn fight.

rh

I was wondering when this good post would turn south.

Anyways, I'm a fan of fighters for three reasons either a) they're entertaining to watch, like Spencer Fischer or Stefan Struve b) they're just extremely talented like Shields, Fitch GSP or c) they're both, like GSP or Silva (sometimes not). to me, Frankie is option c

People may not like his stick and move style, but I certainly do. He's fast, he's always moving, attacking, dodging, working. He has great talent and stamina. good boxing and wrestling. I enjoy his fights. I can understand why people find Fitch boring, but to not respect Frankie for what he's proven so far is to be an irresponsible mma fan

[KillahKimbo]

Originally Posted by built1052

Because he looks like he could compete at 135. He's little. It bothers me.

Strange. Shouldnt a guy who fights near his walk around weight get more respect than a guy who cuts 30 pounds? He doesnt need a big size advantage to help him win fights like alot of other fighters & champs.