Originally Posted by DayneFS
Mac, you know that is way easier said than done. The fact is these guys are extremely skilled, worldclass or Olympic level wrestlers and these guys are much better than their previous generation. That is their base. The rules contain too many variables that play into the advantage of the wrestler, and the wrestler only. It has nothing to do with playing rockem sockem robots.
The matches are only 15 to 25 minutes long that are broken up into 5 minute rounds. IMO, a wrestlers best TDD > Other fighters best TDD. If you lack wrestling skills, I believe your ability to learn TDD is limited simply based upon the lack of knowledge. So whether you are a wrestler or not, when you are on your back under a superior wrestler, it's probably one of the most arduous tasks, if not the most, to get out from under these guys who are putting their hearts and souls into keeping you under them for 5 minutes at a time...and less than 5 minutes at a time isn't really enough time for a fighter on their back to work their way back onto the scorecards under these rules, if they even get the chance. The BJJ guys are more worried about getting back up, which they simply cannot in under several minutes most of the time, than working off their backs because of the rules that don't give them any incentive to do so anymore.
I am in no way saying anything negative about wrestling or wrestlers. I love wrestlers. I understand what is happening when I watch two skilled grapplers battle it out on the ground. I love the technical/competetive aspect of it. That is NOT the point at all. It's the rules. Right now, wrestlers are playing the hand that is given to them. But I am a firm supporter that the rules need to be refined, yellowcards should exist and that refs should all treat fights the same and not be so lenient after warnings.
There are more instances that people are just sad that their favorite fighters were defeated by wrestling but that's not what I am talking about. Just that no particular style should be overly favored in means of scoring than the other, or something should be done to balance it out. This is MMA. Not Kickboxing. Not BJJ. Not judo. Not wrestling.
Sorry, didn't read your whole reply. It was way too long for my A.D.D. You did exactly prove my point in your first paragraph though, these guys are obviously doing more than just laying there as it would be very easy to get someone off of you who is doing just that.
It also proves the point of my rant. These guys need to adapt and learn how to defend against being on the ground or quit complaining about it. The fans need to STFU as well, if your favorite fighter isn't that good get a new one or hope yours learns how to adapt. If this sport bores you, go watch K-1 or WWE. This paragraph wasn't directed at you Dayne.
I'm sure you made really valid points in your reply but unfortunately, I have the attention span of a cracked out squirrel.