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[puffpuffgv51]

Thank you Bonger. Barry is by far greater then Emmitt switch the teams and Barry would have the records and it wouldn't even be close. As for LT has to do it on the big stage check the box score Payton 22 carries for 60 something yards and a fumble. Sure they won but they had the best defense in the league and for the matter Dallas D was always top notch when they were winning Super Bowl.

[WadoKai]

If Tim Sylvia wins, we'll know he sat online and voted for himself a few thousand times.

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by WadoKai

If Tim Sylvia wins, we'll know he sat online and voted for himself a few thousand times.

people must be doign that? The pole was deadlocked with LT at 32%+ and Sylvia at 32%+ and that was only 1-2 hours ago and it is late on a Friday so something reeks of BS.

[jesusatemyhotdog]

In regards to LT, I have decided to present some evidence to support that LT is in the same company as the greatest RBs of all time, when you look at the first 6 seasons of each of their careers. I omitted Jim Brown, because he is to football what Gretzky is to hockey: untouchable. Also omitted is Gale Sayers, because he played his entire career in a 14 game schedule.



Barry Sanders
GP Att YDS AVG TD REC YDS YPC TD
| 1989 det | 15 | 280 1470 5.2 14 | 24 282 11.8 0 |
| 1990 det | 16 | 255 1304 5.1 13 | 36 480 13.3 3 |
| 1991 det | 15 | 342 1548 4.5 16 | 41 307 7.5 1 |
| 1992 det | 16 | 312 1352 4.3 9 | 29 225 7.8 1 |
| 1993 det | 11 | 243 1115 4.6 3 | 36 205 5.7 0 |
| 1994 det | 16 | 331 1883 5.7 7 | 44 283 6.4 1 |


Emmit Smith
| 1990 dal | 16 | 241 937 3.9 11 | 24 228 9.5 0 |
| 1991 dal | 16 | 365 1563 4.3 12 | 49 258 5.3 1 |
| 1992 dal | 16 | 373 1713 4.6 18 | 59 335 5.7 1 |
| 1993 dal | 14 | 283 1486 5.3 9 | 57 414 7.3 1 |
| 1994 dal | 15 | 368 1484 4.0 21 | 50 341 6.8 1 |
| 1995 dal | 16 | 377 1773 4.7 25 | 62 375 6.0 0 |

Eric Dickerson
| 1983 ram | 16 | 390 1808 4.6 18 | 51 404 7.9 2 |
| 1984 ram | 16 | 379 2105 5.6 14 | 21 139 6.6 0 |
| 1985 ram | 14 | 292 1234 4.2 12 | 20 126 6.3 0 |
| 1986 ram | 16 | 404 1821 4.5 11 | 26 205 7.9 0 |
| 1987 ind | 9 | 223 1011 4.5 5 | 13 133 10.2 0 |
| 1987 ram | 3 | 60 277 4.6 1 | 5 38 7.6 0 |


Walter Payton
| 1975 chi | 13 | 196 679 3.5 7 | 33 213 6.5 0 |
| 1976 chi | 14 | 311 1390 4.5 13 | 15 149 9.9 0 |
| 1977 chi | 14 | 339 1852 5.5 14 | 27 269 10.0 2 |
| 1978 chi | 16 | 333 1395 4.2 11 | 50 480 9.6 0 |
| 1979 chi | 16 | 369 1610 4.4 14 | 31 313 10.1 2 |
| 1980 chi | 16 | 317 1460 4.6 6 | 46 367 8.0 1 |

Ladanian Tomlinson
| 2001 sdg | 16 | 339 1236 3.6 10 | 59 367 6.2 0 |
| 2002 sdg | 16 | 372 1683 4.5 14 | 79 489 6.2 1 |
| 2003 sdg | 16 | 313 1645 5.3 13 | 100 725 7.2 4 |
| 2004 sdg | 15 | 339 1335 3.9 17 | 53 441 8.3 1 |
| 2005 sdg | 16 | 339 1462 4.3 18 | 51 370 7.3 2 |
| 2006 sdg | 14 | 311 1626 5.2 28 | 53 484 9.1 3 |


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As far as Crosby goes, he deserves to be on a pedestal. He will get his cup in due time, but there have only been a handful of players with his total package of skill, hands, vision and ability to read the game. I watched him rape the QMJHL when my younger brother played in the league and it is frightening to see how much better he gets each and every season.

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by jesusatemyhotdog

In regards to LT, I have decided to present some evidence to support that LT is in the same company as the greatest RBs of all time, when you look at the first 6 seasons of each of their careers. I omitted Jim Brown, because he is to football what Gretzky is to hockey: untouchable. Also omitted is Gale Sayers, because he played his entire career in a 14 game schedule.



Barry Sanders
GP Att YDS AVG TD REC YDS YPC TD
| 1989 det | 15 | 280 1470 5.2 14 | 24 282 11.8 0 |
| 1990 det | 16 | 255 1304 5.1 13 | 36 480 13.3 3 |
| 1991 det | 15 | 342 1548 4.5 16 | 41 307 7.5 1 |
| 1992 det | 16 | 312 1352 4.3 9 | 29 225 7.8 1 |
| 1993 det | 11 | 243 1115 4.6 3 | 36 205 5.7 0 |
| 1994 det | 16 | 331 1883 5.7 7 | 44 283 6.4 1 |


Emmit Smith
| 1990 dal | 16 | 241 937 3.9 11 | 24 228 9.5 0 |
| 1991 dal | 16 | 365 1563 4.3 12 | 49 258 5.3 1 |
| 1992 dal | 16 | 373 1713 4.6 18 | 59 335 5.7 1 |
| 1993 dal | 14 | 283 1486 5.3 9 | 57 414 7.3 1 |
| 1994 dal | 15 | 368 1484 4.0 21 | 50 341 6.8 1 |
| 1995 dal | 16 | 377 1773 4.7 25 | 62 375 6.0 0 |

Eric Dickerson
| 1983 ram | 16 | 390 1808 4.6 18 | 51 404 7.9 2 |
| 1984 ram | 16 | 379 2105 5.6 14 | 21 139 6.6 0 |
| 1985 ram | 14 | 292 1234 4.2 12 | 20 126 6.3 0 |
| 1986 ram | 16 | 404 1821 4.5 11 | 26 205 7.9 0 |
| 1987 ind | 9 | 223 1011 4.5 5 | 13 133 10.2 0 |
| 1987 ram | 3 | 60 277 4.6 1 | 5 38 7.6 0 |


Walter Payton
| 1975 chi | 13 | 196 679 3.5 7 | 33 213 6.5 0 |
| 1976 chi | 14 | 311 1390 4.5 13 | 15 149 9.9 0 |
| 1977 chi | 14 | 339 1852 5.5 14 | 27 269 10.0 2 |
| 1978 chi | 16 | 333 1395 4.2 11 | 50 480 9.6 0 |
| 1979 chi | 16 | 369 1610 4.4 14 | 31 313 10.1 2 |
| 1980 chi | 16 | 317 1460 4.6 6 | 46 367 8.0 1 |

Ladanian Tomlinson
| 2001 sdg | 16 | 339 1236 3.6 10 | 59 367 6.2 0 |
| 2002 sdg | 16 | 372 1683 4.5 14 | 79 489 6.2 1 |
| 2003 sdg | 16 | 313 1645 5.3 13 | 100 725 7.2 4 |
| 2004 sdg | 15 | 339 1335 3.9 17 | 53 441 8.3 1 |
| 2005 sdg | 16 | 339 1462 4.3 18 | 51 370 7.3 2 |
| 2006 sdg | 14 | 311 1626 5.2 28 | 53 484 9.1 3 |


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The overwhelming difference between LT and the best RB of all time, Barry Sanders is the YPC, Barry dominates that category over everyone.

[Palma]

I'm surprised that Sanders looks better then Tomlinson.

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by Palma Wrestler

I'm surprised that Sanders looks better then Tomlinson.

Not when he fights the 150lb Genki Sudo.

[Palma]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

Not when he fights the 150lb Genki Sudo.

That pretty good, haha.

[jesusatemyhotdog]

Originally Posted by dagreat1

The overwhelming difference between LT and the best RB of all time, Barry Sanders is the YPC, Barry dominates that category over everyone.

Actually, his career YPC is 5.0, Jim Brown's is 5.2 including one year of 6.4. But of the listed players, I agree Sanders is the best.

I was only trying to make the point that LT deserves to be in the same conversation as the others and that he is more deserving of the ESPN "award" than the hotdog eater - ha ha

[dagreat1]

Originally Posted by jesusatemyhotdog

Actually, his career YPC is 5.0, Jim Brown's is 5.2 including one year of 6.4. But of the listed players, I agree Sanders is the best.

I was only trying to make the point that LT deserves to be in the same conversation as the others and that he is more deserving of the ESPN "award" than the hotdog eater - ha ha

I do agree. Also, with the hotdog eater, he is basically a man amoung boys (as ironic as that is seeing as he is the youngest one) because he is the only one who is in great physical shape so he must be the only one training as relentless as he does both eating and excersising, distinct advantage IMO given that they all posess the same gift of being able to eat 50+ hotdogs.