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12-31-2010, 11:06 AM
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Wow after sleeping I have watched some bouts:
Overeem vs Duffee: Just fucking wow, I expected Overeem to KO Duffee but I thought it would take him at least 2 or 3 minutes, and it took him only 19 seconds.
Overeem is definitely scary and those knees and punches are vicious. Hopefully in 2011 he finally fights Top Competition.
Aoki vs K1 guy: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I had nothing against Aoki but he acted like a complete cheater and clown in the first round. I mean WTF? He tried to take down his opponent, he did stupid things just to finish in the gorund and lose time. What a coward, and then when everybody (included me) is thinking "the fight is over, Aoki will take him down and sub" booom, knee and Aoki is Knocked Out cold LOOOOL
Hopefully Aoki learned his lesson.
Sakuraba vs Zaromskis: Fuck!!! seriously, why Sakuraba cant fight some can and then retire? He is a legend, but he needs to be like Jens Pulver or Chuck Lidell or what? Why he needs to end his career with a lot of loses and horrible performances??
I hope his ear is OK
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12-31-2010, 12:12 PM
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I loved Dynamite! Happy New Year guys! So glad I stayed awake from 4am-9am to watch this, but the site wouldnt let me log in to keep up with the discussion so I gave up on it.
UFC 125 has big shoes to fill to be as awesome as Dynamite was last night, my only complaint was how long it took the night to get started. Opening ceremony was kool to see and all but damn...
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12-31-2010, 12:38 PM
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Yeah there was some unnecesary stuff.
For example each ring girl said some words, seriously what was the point of that?? I dont understand Japanese but I dont think they said something relevant.
Then the introdcution of each judge and referee, we lost another 10 minutes on that. (BTW why people Boo Shimada? Its beacuse he is a heel in pro wrestling?). The opening ceremony was not bad but extremely far from the opening ceremonies PRIDE did in 2004 and 2005.
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12-31-2010, 12:41 PM
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I passed out around 630am, so I missed everything after the Sergei bout. The damn intropackages and walkouts are just tooooooo long! Overall, a good solid night of fights that was just darn fun to watch, however they have to build their matches to be more consistent with regards to skill-level and sometimes the styles clash so much that it becomes a very one sided affair.
Crusher looked pretty damn tough and strong as sin, but I wasn't terribly impressed by the win over the Punk because his GNP, while ridiculously powerful is open to a good bottomgame and scramble and I think that Thomson more than anything lost that bout by not maintaining proper distance and just got manhandled by the stronger foe. But he was STILL was able to grab Crusher's back in the chaos once or twice and with his current skillset training in Japan, Crusher doesn't appear to be as TIGHT as he should be at this level of competition.
Obviously a Melendez showdown is in the works and that should be an awesome matchup stylistically, but I don't think that Crusher will be able to maintain that pace for five rounds against somebody with a more complete game and frenzied pace like Gilbert. Could be a fight of the year potentially, but I think Gilbert outworks him and comes in with a smarter gameplan.
Overeem did what Overeem DOES and nothing was proven last night with regards to him because he did what he was supposed to and beat the shit out of a pretty novice HW who doesn't even have ten fights under his belt. He's just so physically dominating that going toe to toe with him is nearly impossible. I still think that the first solid wrestler or BJJ groundgamer he goes up against who isn't just a warm body to beat up, he may have some trouble. He's awesome to watch, but he needs better challengers.
Sakuraba's amazing, he's one of the greatest EVA, but he's deteriorating at an alarming rate and isn't doing anything anymore to maintain competativeness against middle of the road fighters. He just stands there, eats a shitload of punches and seems to be waiting to get dropped so he can THEN pick a leg and go for a sub, which is a violent and dangerous and just isn't anywhere near a thoughtful tactic. The ear finish was disgusting and sad and honestly, was a true buzzkill for my morning of MMA because he's just so past it and they're still giving him bigfights.
Ishii's evolving at a wonderful pace and really looks to be one of the few judokas to actually develop an MMA intelligence and ring awareness and showed some good transitions. He's still in his infancy as a fighter, but he's got some serious POTENTIAL and while it's unreal how hard they've pushed him and dumped him into a pretty steep debut vs. Yoshida, Ishii has the tools to go far and appears to "get it", more so than say Izumi who just LNPs and lackadaisically take the fight without any intent to finish it.
Japanese MMA is so sad right now because all of their "homegrown" stars are either past it or not there yet or never gonna get there. They're so disorganized that it's painful to watch sometimes.
Watching Sergei last night was something of a realization to me that he's probably done as a top tier HW contender, because he was getting tagged by a fighter in Mizuno, who has little to no standup and IMO, Sergei looked totally checked out and non-committed to that fight and it saddened me because he was once so promising, but he doesn't appear to really have that fire. Maybe it was his tenativeness to exchange and risk getting takendown by Mizuno, but still, he looked out of it.
I'm also pretty sure Hideo Tokoro vs. Watanabe was a complete worked shoot, because there's no way a novice pro boxer could get in that many armbars and RNCs and not get finished. Not to say he didn't have a solid submission defense, but Tokoro didn't look to even be close to sinking in those chokes and armlocks as he SHOULD'VE BEEN and it was pretty suspicious.
And finally, GREATEST AOKI FIGHT EVER! He cheats and hohums the entire first round to avoid the standup and not get killed and basically robbed Nagashima of any chance of winning "his round", given that it was a hybrid MMA/K1 fight and then, Aoki walks out for his MMA round and gets obliterated. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. So sweet and just dessert-ish.
Ologun vs. Furuki and Uno vs. Miyata were both splendidly enjoyable bouts and were highlights for me.
I also have zero clue why a draw like Mousasi was put into an utterly meaningless K1 bout where he cannot be showcased in the best light. He JUST won DREAM's "LHW Title" and then goes to fight in a kickboxing bout on NYE? Could've really gone for a cool LHW bout and had they have had some foresight, there are plenty of challengers out there to build a solid fight for him.
Endgame, good fun MMA night, solid commentary and exciting finishes for the most part, however this is further proof why they need ONE MMA promotion in Japan and merge WVR and DREAM because combined they have some great talents(especially at lighter weights) but on their own often times, they just mismatch their fighters and it ends up being a slaughter. Co-promoting NYE would've been far more ideal, because Sengoku's NYE Eve card was good and all, but really meant nothing in the long run. I love MMA, and Japan always brings something fun and different, but they're just so painfully disfunctional that it saddens me.
Enjoyable night, but I'm not looking forward to Japanese MMA on a major stage in 2011.
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12-31-2010, 01:02 PM
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is nagashima gay? what was with that entrance?
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12-31-2010, 01:40 PM
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What's scary is that overeem is legit on the ground, and it's his striking that keeps on improving. Nobody wants to fight him right now
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12-31-2010, 01:55 PM
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I would like to see more of Miyata, his wrestling is sick. Looks like he needs to work on his standup, but he's definitely fun to watch. Loved the suplexeseses (yes thats multiple)
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12-31-2010, 02:43 PM
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Aoki is pathetic. I will always want him to lose from now on.
Umm...Duffee. What can I say. Besides that I feel extremely sorry for him.
Great night of fights. But God damn, i'm never staying up to watch a bunch of movie-esque bullshit and all the ridiculous fucking filler they had just made me want to rip my fucking eyes out.
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12-31-2010, 05:56 PM
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The Dynamite replay is coming on now on Hdnet.
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