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Old 01-25-2011, 12:38 AM   #21 (permalink)
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People are ripping on Coker's strategy but thinking about it....what if Coker's onto something? Maybe Coker has arrangements with various orgs, that if their fighters can beat strikeforce fighters, then they would be able to bid on the other orgs contracts or share the fighters in return. If this guy beats Daley, we could be seeing Yuya Shirai fighting the top welterweights in strikeforce or a rematch with Daley stateside. It's a risky gamble, but strikeforce didn't build itself the same way as the UFC. The UFC is a brand, and protecting the brand and marketing their fighters as the best in MMA is more important than stupid things like "competition" and "honor". Since Strikeforce is still a relatively unknown brand to many MMA fans in the states, their fighters can afford to lose elsewhere, I mean how many casual fans would even know if their fighters lost overseas? I think this is good for the sport and will create a scenario where fans appreciate competition between brands without punishing a fighter or his brand for losing to another promotion. Putting on exciting fights and having fighters fight other fighters without boundaries seems like it could be the next evolution of the sport.
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People are ripping on Coker's strategy but thinking about it....what if Coker's onto something? Maybe Coker has arrangements with various orgs, that if their fighters can beat strikeforce fighters, then they would be able to bid on the other orgs contracts or share the fighters in return. If this guy beats Daley, we could be seeing Yuya Shirai fighting the top welterweights in strikeforce or a rematch with Daley stateside. It's a risky gamble, but strikeforce didn't build itself the same way as the UFC. The UFC is a brand, and protecting the brand and marketing their fighters as the best in MMA is more important than stupid things like "competition" and "honor". Since Strikeforce is still a relatively unknown brand to many MMA fans in the states, their fighters can afford to lose elsewhere, I mean how many casual fans would even know if their fighters lost overseas? I think this is good for the sport and will create a scenario where fans appreciate competition between brands without punishing a fighter or his brand for losing to another promotion. Putting on exciting fights and having fighters fight other fighters without boundaries seems like it could be the next evolution of the sport.
But Daley will be punished. Coker said if he loses he can lose his shot at the title...that seems like punishment from my standpoint.
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Old 01-25-2011, 08:57 AM   #23 (permalink)
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* - Strikeforce Light Heavyweight Championship
Dan Henderson vs. Rafael Cavalcante (No. 9 LHW)

* - Jason Miller vs. Tim Kennedy
* - Paul Daley vs. TBA
* - Jorge Gurgel vs. TBA
Brett Rogers did it....don't remember this many people being upset about him fighting outside of Strikeforce.

I have no problem with Coker letting him fight elsewhere. I think more fighters should be allowed to fight outside the organization they are in. Especially in organizations that can't keep up with fighters.

Case in point Daniel Cormier. He wants to fight, get the experience and get some money all at the same time.

Paul Daley still has a very questionable ground game, his takedown defense has been looking good, but taking on a guy like Yuya should help him build his confidence in fighters with decent ground game...

I highly doubt Daley will be injured during this fight, that's why I don't have a problem with it. I expect an easy KO, or worst case scenario, he gets arm-barred or something. Highly doubt he will get cut or break a bone or get KOd.

Daley is still more well known in the UK as he is in the States. I am sure he wants to fight for his family and friends.

Fighting in MMA for a lot of fighters is more about the challenge of the fight, than the planning for a fight 2 months down the line so that I can get a title shot and win. For some fighters it is the challenge....people who really care less about their agent getting an easy opponent so I get a title shot....then refuse to fight anyone until I get my title shot.

Not everyone is a Rashad...I really like when fighters just want to fight...one of the big reasons I like Daniel Cormier. Don't get me wrong....nothing wrong with a fighter being a smart business man and fighting smart for their career....but I also have no problem with fighters who want to fight...regardless of the promotion.

Daley wants to stay active and I can't fault him for that.
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Why is he fighting for the BAMMA belt? WTF is BAMMA anyways?
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British Association of Mixed Martial Arts.

Its run by the guy(s) that used to run Cage Rage in the UK. As one of the biggest British fighters (and ex-Cage Rage champions) they probably pushed the boat out £££ wise to get him to fight.

They're finances seem a bit suspect though as they haven't paid Tom 'Kong' Watson their middleweight champion for his last few fights.

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British Association of Mixed Martial Arts.

Its run by the guy(s) that used to run Cage Rage in the UK. As one of the biggest British fighters (and ex-Cage Rage champions) they probably pushed the boat out £££ wise to get him to fight.

They're finances seem a bit suspect though as they haven't paid Tom 'Kong' Watson their middleweight champion for his last few fights.

See also Watson's twitter: Twitter
Yeah man, BAMMA does seem a little suspect to me. Watson's fight with Alex Reid was sure to have benefited the organisation in a big way, but when you weigh that against the amount that Reid was likely to have asked for that fight, it's doubtful that they made much of a profit.

As for BAMMA as a reputable organisation; Well, as Dexter said, it's run by some guys who have been in the industry for many years, and it's certainly one of the front-runners in the UK for MMA, but it's legitimacy is questionable. For one, Alex Reid was awarded a title shot against Watson after he was coming off 6 straight losses (although the fight was obviously set up for the purposes of Reid's reality show).
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The only people this fight matters to are the Wikipedia crew who have to update Daley's page with another TKO.
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