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[Sakara=Excitement]

Since when did Aggression get scored higher than better striking and better grappling? That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

[beau420]

Originally Posted by goodtimes

I disagree with that interpretation because Kampmann was effectively counter punching. Yes he was backing up, but that was to maintain a distance where he could light him up while Sanchez missed on almost everything. To see the effect of Kampmann's counter punching, all you have to do is look at Sanchez's face.

However, I will agree with you that if Kampmann was more aggressive, maybe taking Sanchez down and trying to punish him on the ground then he would have won easily. But an alternate view would be if he stuck to his gameplan and didn't let himself get lulled into a slugging match against a fence a few times he would have won easily as well.

Kampmann was playing a points game. Kampmann's punches didn't have snap...they were pushing jabs that did cut and swell Diego, but to a judge. One guy is trying to finish the fight coming forward (Diego) and the other guy is backing up trying to keep their opponent at bay counter punching....but still getting caught several times.

Kampmann tried to display octagon control, but Diego was tracking him down and catching him and I feel that's what won Diego the fight.

I was going for Kampmann before and during the fight, but I knew Diego was going to get the win because he was more aggressive and he was trying to finish the fight and the successful takedown.

To strictly fight on the outside, you have to prevent getting hit. Kampmann didn't, and not only that he just take a couple hits, he got caught up against the fence a few times because Diego tracked him down....and got clocked and wobbled.

It's the same reason the media was in an uproar when Hopkins lost his last fight.....he did what Diego did and Jean Pascal did what Kampmann did. One guy tried to work the outside...the other tried to get inside.

I think a big factor in the fight was not how Diego looked, but Kampmann's cardio and attempt to finish. If the fight went one more round, Diego would have won that fight (even with all the blood loss)...I think that may have played into the judges decisions as well.

[goodtimes]

Originally Posted by beau420

Kampmann was playing a points game. Kampmann's punches didn't have snap...they were pushing jabs that did cut and swell Diego, but to a judge. One guy is trying to finish the fight coming forward (Diego) and the other guy is backing up trying to keep their opponent at bay counter punching....but still getting caught several times.

Kampmann tried to display octagon control, but Diego was tracking him down and catching him and I feel that's what won Diego the fight.

I was going for Kampmann before and during the fight, but I knew Diego was going to get the win because he was more aggressive and he was trying to finish the fight and the successful takedown.

To strictly fight on the outside, you have to prevent getting hit. Kampmann didn't, and not only that he just take a couple hits, he got caught up against the fence a few times because Diego tracked him down....and got clocked and wobbled.

It's the same reason the media was in an uproar when Hopkins lost his last fight.....he did what Diego did and Jean Pascal did what Kampmann did. One guy tried to work the outside...the other tried to get inside.

I think a big factor in the fight was not how Diego looked, but Kampmann's cardio and attempt to finish. If the fight went one more round, Diego would have won that fight (even with all the blood loss)...I think that may have played into the judges decisions as well.

See but the only time Kampmann was getting hit was when he sat in the corner and exchanged with Sanchez, he was basically doing whatever he wanted when the fight was at range. I don't totally disagree with the judging of the fight, I think Kampmann was clearly the more effective striker but taking the other stuff into account and seeing as how its only 3 rounds the decision's can look pretty strange. However, I think if the fight went another round they probably would have stopped the fight on cuts. Sanchez's face was a complete mess, a few more jabs and they would have had to stop it.

[RonPaulForPeace]

rematch needs to be made, If there was a fight to be a draw this should of been as Kampman def didnt loose and sanchez def didint win so make it happen.

[singinkangaroooo]

lol he said he didnt even train boxing and he underestimated his TDD.. what did he train?? he said he resorted back to street brawling since he got his ass beat so bad where exactly did any of his training come in?

i feel that Diego won this fight more than Martin lost it.. i think Diego obviously showed that he wanted the fight more with his relentless pace.. Martin could have answered that and he tried but he ended up standing flat footed throwing and landing multiple straight punches with little power on them while Diego connected on 2 of 5 but they were much more dramatic

since these judges didnt seem to recognize his counter striking he was doomed from the beginning with his current mindset.. this fight only confirmed what we saw from his previous fight...

[dbader08]

Kampmann easily won that fight.

aggressively running facefirst into stiff counters all night does not earn you a victory. Well, maybe to UFC judges it does, but thats about it.

and lol at Diego saying if he can't find a better opponent, then he'll fight Kampmann again. He's just using that as an excuse to cover up the fact that he doesn't want his face to get FUCKING WRECKED again.

[Monsterman]

Originally Posted by CHAEL fan

Word....maybe The Dream should change his nickname to The Delusional

What the fuck is that nickname anyway? I thought he didn´t want to have any.

[LefthookStcrook]

Its already been done to death... But ill say it again.

Kampmann won the striking portion of that fight, and he easily won the grappling portion. But somehow Diego wins?? How does that make sense?, to anyone.

Why he didnt get the W is beyond me.

But that isnt Diegos fault or anything, he fought his ass off and showed me more heart in that fight then any other previous fights of his. But I do agree that it kinda seems like Diego is ducking the rematch a lil.

Atleast say "Sure dude, if DW and Co set it up I'll beat you again" instead of "Well..If I cant find another fight with anybody I think is better then you, then Ill give you your rematch". This makes me hope DW makes something of this hype/hate and gets the 2nd fight signed.

Makes me feel bad for Kampmann because he showed us in the Sheilds fight that he can easily hang with a top 3 WW(it was a split), and I deffinetly thought he won the Diego fight.

Its weird, Im ussually not too big on immediate rematches, but theres certain situations where I catch myself contridicting myself. With Pham/Garcia, Fitch/Penn and Kampmann/Diego I deffinetly want to see rematches. But not soo much for Maynard/Edgar 3(or Shogun/Machida2 or a Sonnen/Anderson 2 immediate rematch)

Its weird, I know it was a pretty good fight, But the way I look at it as he had his shot at the title, and didnt win(grant it he didnt "lose" either). I mean Frankie will have fought 2 people in 4 fights, theres no telling what history would be like if those rematches didnt happen, and Edgar fought other contender instead(or Machida)

Id rather see Sonnen get the immediate rematch over Maynard myself, because atleast Sonnen beat his ass for the better portion of the fight, where as Maynard beat his ass for only one round. But thats an entire different thread all together.

[kingrobert]

Im pretty sure that Diego wont be fighting Condit anytime soon. Since Diego went back to train with Greg Jackson doesnt Condit train there too?? If so I dont think that fight will happen esecially after the Jones and Rashad crap.

Diego may have got his face messed up but I still thought he was more agressive and won the fight. After the first round Kampman faded and was getting slower. Just my opion.

[snakebite]

Diego won that fight easy. I though this was already handled. Go find the original thread on this matter and you'll see most people on here agrees. I don't even see where the controversy came from other then Joe rogams dumb ass yell talk commentating.