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05-01-2011, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Adambomb As impressed as I was with GSP overcoming blindness in one eye to defeat Jake Shields while never giving up anything close to a takedown, I also decided I don't wanna see him fight Anderson Silva. For the first time in a long time GSP looked human. 2 judges gave Shields two rounds (not that I necessarily agree), so this was the first fight GSP lost a round since...Serra? I guess if you don't count Serra, which was kind of a fluke, then it'd be the first Penn fight.
Regardless of whether you think GSP lost a round or not, what's unarguable is the amount of damage he took. He was busted open & by his own admission blind in one eye. If you had to pick someone to be after that fight, I'd much rather be Jake Shields. While GSP was never in danger of losing, he did appear touchable at 170, and if Shields could hurt him that badly I'd hate to see what Anderson is capable of.
Obviously there aren't a ton of matchups that come to mind for GSP at 170, but Nick Diaz would be a fun fight. Nick appears to have better BJJ & boxing, while GSP has far superior wrestling. Even so, Nick's BJJ at least makes that fight intriguing if it hits the ground. Plus, just seeing the classy GSP deal with the classless Diaz during press conferences & Primetime would be hugely entertaining. Diaz seems to be craving a challenge [and payday]. Who's a tougher opponent than GSP?
After that I don't see anyone worthy of a title shot, but perhaps Rory McDonald or someone else could emerge sometime relatively soon. (Fast track Rory McDonald to a title shot. Nate Diaz isn't a chump & the only other time I've seen that many german suplexes inside a cage Kurt Angle was involved.)
That's just my opinion. What do you guys think? Still wanna see GSP-Anderson? | To be honest man, I've never thought of GSP as untouchable (and that is mainly because of the first fight with Serra), and for some reason I'm not buying the whole blind in one eye excuse (I don't care what he says, we've all seen fighters fight with worse and not complain). He just needs the right opponent to pressure him, like Condit or Lytle. Guys that aren't afraid to get hit or push the pace, because Jake didn't look like he was ready for either of those tasks tonight.
Also, GSP is an athletic freak of nature with plenty more tools than he uses in his fights. i dunno if he is scared to pull the trigger or what, but I'm getting sick of him doing the same stuff throughout a fight and then saying he is not happy with the way he fought. Well guess what GSP, you are in charge of that so do something about it.
I'm not interested in the super fight at all. Both fighters seem to have reasons not too too it, such as either cutting too much weight, or not adding enough weight properly, which are legitimate reasons.
Both guys still have contenders in each division, even if the it will take a fight or two to build up the next ones. There's plenty of talent in the UFC and there is no reason to rush two super stars into a fight that doesn't really hold much merit in the long run.
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05-01-2011, 12:38 AM
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to be honest ppl may not wanna see the superfight and i dont really either but you also gotta think GSP won't have a stand up with Silva gameplan come fight night. He'll take Silva down repeatedly and use the same tactic he has for other strikers. But I too was disappointed to see what pillow fists did to GSP.. kinda pissed me off. GSP does have a few other match ups in the UFC.. Condit or stun gun, Ellenberger maybe and if they allow it to happen Diaz.
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05-01-2011, 02:27 AM
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agree with what most of you said.
GSP got the W, but am I the only one that thinks how you fight and the way the fight ends matters for longterm legacy? Shields has a very good chin and can recover very well but the luxury gsp has had that past shields opponents havent is that he would be very very hard for shields to get him down. Not saying gsp is an elite striker, but if he wanted a finish, jake is certainly the guy to go after imo. Not because he has been finished in the past, but because of the style matchup. I was not surprised that he could stop jake's takedowns, but was surprised that he didnt get the finish, even with his past fights. Guess i tried going back to being a gsp fan a little too soon...
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05-01-2011, 05:25 AM
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Never did and still don't, the size difference is just too much in Anderson's favour. Trust Silva to be trying to call out the guy at the weight below instead of the host of guys he could fight at his more suited LHW. If George moved up, he wouldn't just have a size disadvantage come fight night but a height and reach disadvantage aswell. I never liked the idea of this fight, Silva should be looking for Jones and Shogun, he never does seem to ask for the right fights though or the fights the fans want, just the ones him and Soares feel are best for him.
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05-01-2011, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JCVD Never did and still don't, the size difference is just too much in Anderson's favour. Trust Silva to be trying to call out the guy at the weight below instead of the host of guys he could fight at his more suited LHW. If George moved up, he wouldn't just have a size disadvantage come fight night but a height and reach disadvantage aswell. I never liked the idea of this fight, Silva should be looking for Jones and Shogun, he never does seem to ask for the right fights though or the fights the fans want, just the ones him and Soares feel are best for him. | When has anderson ever stated he wanted this fight. He was merely asked a ton of times about the possibility of a fight. Dont act like he has been calling gsp out. So gsp shouldnt take fights at a higher weight but anderson should? The fans are the ones fueling gsp-silva not anderson and soares...
gsp and anderson fight at divisions 15 pound apart. Anderson and jones fight at divisions 20 pounds apart. Anderson wouldnt have a huge reach and height disadvantage against jones?...
Anderson and gsp are closer in size than anderson and jones are. Jones has 6 inches of reach and 3 inches in height. anderson has 2.5 inches of reach and 3 inches of height on gsp.
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05-01-2011, 07:46 AM
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No. I have never wanted to see this "superfight" and still don't and expect that I never will.
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05-01-2011, 08:19 AM
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ONLY to see Silva absolutely pulverize GSP...
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05-01-2011, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TheKidInside ONLY to see Silva absolutely pulverize GSP... | I don't think that will happen I think both fighters would play it safe and we would see Anderson "Dancing with the stars" Silva Dance his way do a UD. I don't want to see the fight.
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05-01-2011, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Adambomb As impressed as I was with GSP overcoming blindness in one eye to defeat Jake Shields while never giving up anything close to a takedown, I also decided I don't wanna see him fight Anderson Silva. For the first time in a long time GSP looked human. 2 judges gave Shields two rounds (not that I necessarily agree), so this was the first fight GSP lost a round since...Serra? I guess if you don't count Serra, which was kind of a fluke, then it'd be the first Penn fight.
Regardless of whether you think GSP lost a round or not, what's unarguable is the amount of damage he took. He was busted open & by his own admission blind in one eye. If you had to pick someone to be after that fight, I'd much rather be Jake Shields. While GSP was never in danger of losing, he did appear touchable at 170, and if Shields could hurt him that badly I'd hate to see what Anderson is capable of.
Obviously there aren't a ton of matchups that come to mind for GSP at 170, but Nick Diaz would be a fun fight. Nick appears to have better BJJ & boxing, while GSP has far superior wrestling. Even so, Nick's BJJ at least makes that fight intriguing if it hits the ground. Plus, just seeing the classy GSP deal with the classless Diaz during press conferences & Primetime would be hugely entertaining. Diaz seems to be craving a challenge [and payday]. Who's a tougher opponent than GSP?
After that I don't see anyone worthy of a title shot, but perhaps Rory McDonald or someone else could emerge sometime relatively soon. (Fast track Rory McDonald to a title shot. Nate Diaz isn't a chump & the only other time I've seen that many german suplexes inside a cage Kurt Angle was involved.)
That's just my opinion. What do you guys think? Still wanna see GSP-Anderson? |
I do agree that Gsp looked human in that fight. I also think Gsp himself feared jake's Bjj too much. He had quite a few oppourtunities to go for a finish but the second jake reached for a leg..Gsp backed off. All in all, it was a decent fight/chess match.
Now for this superfight. You can't compare the damage the Jake did to the damage the Silva can do. The reason is Silva's real threat to Gsp in on the feet. SO gsp would fight a totally different fight. You can't compare the two. I can see the fight going the way the Silva/Leites/maia fight with Silva trying to peck away and avoiding the ground but this time, little success. I feel Gsp would do just fine against silva.
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05-01-2011, 09:48 AM
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The superfight I really want to see is Anderson Silva vs Fedor at 205.
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