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Originally Posted by dare777 I would like to see a little more lateral movement and head movement. Get off the Bruce Lee technique, it is a kung fu stance that has been around for a thousand years. Anderson Silva uses the stance quite often, In most of his fights he is never face to face with an opponent.
Lyoto has a stance that most chinese fighters used to train against and crush in the 1920's and 1930's too rigid, take out the front leg and the karate guys were done.
I do not condone front kicks to the knee but Silva had used them in the past. one day someone may take out machida's knee. | dude its mma, the striking is far from elite in most fighters including some of the top strikers in mma. its because the sport is still young and evolving and because the have so Many areas to focus on. it will continue to get better was the sport grows
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05-01-2011, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by The Sword dude its mma, the striking is far from elite in most fighters including some of the top strikers in mma. its because the sport is still young and evolving and because the have so Many areas to focus on. it will continue to get better was the sport grows | I completely agree, but I am sure when people watch the Crane Kick in the Karate Kid movie people actually would say that would only work if someone bum rushed you or stood right in front you. Well needless to say it worked and am still trying to figure out how. It is a depressing day for me when a legend gets his teeth knocked out from that kick.
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05-01-2011, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by dare777 I would like to see a little more lateral movement and head movement. Get off the Bruce Lee technique, it is a kung fu stance that has been around for a thousand years. Anderson Silva uses the stance quite often, In most of his fights he is never face to face with an opponent.
Lyoto has a stance that most chinese fighters used to train against and crush in the 1920's and 1930's too rigid, take out the front leg and the karate guys were done.
I do not condone front kicks to the knee but Silva had used them in the past. one day someone may take out machida's knee. | Agree with what you are saying. U just lost me when you said they need to fight like bruce lee.
Fighters need to learn not to just come forward or move backwards. Being able to hit and not get hit is the name of the standup game. Not many fighters use angles effectively, the ones who do clearly shine. We all already knew that randy was not a great striker and lyoto didnt even have to be at his best(standing) in the fight, if he was fighting a better striker or somebody with more speed or power it might have been a different story. Lee has his place in martial arts history, but not much as far as mma goes. He would get obliterated by the better strikers in mma.
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05-01-2011, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dare777 What is up with these guys being parallel to an opponent where a front kick can slip right between your hand positions? One leg should be forward so you are more in a perpendicular stance with your opponent and your lead hand will block. (look at Bruce Lees fighting stance) I commend Machida on the Karate Kid kick but please no more. I cant take it. | MMA fighters typically stand more straight because if you have a stance like Lee or a traditional boxing stance where you're more side on you will get taken down easily.
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05-01-2011, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by rampage9712 Agree with what you are saying. U just lost me when you said they need to fight like bruce lee.
Fighters need to learn not to just come forward or move backwards. Being able to hit and not get hit is the name of the standup game. Not many fighters use angles effectively, the ones who do clearly shine. We all already knew that randy was not a great striker and lyoto didnt even have to be at his best(standing) in the fight, if he was fighting a better striker or somebody with more speed or power it might have been a different story. Lee has his place in martial arts history, but not much as far as mma goes. He would get obliterated by the better strikers in mma. | Yeah not fight like Bruce Lee but maybe use his stances and some more lateral movement. Though to back track 45 years, Lee was trained in Jiu-jitsu There is actually an arm-bar scene in Chinese Connection.
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05-01-2011, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dare777 I completely agree, but I am sure when people watch the Crane Kick in the Karate Kid movie people actually would say that would only work if someone bum rushed you or stood right in front you. Well needless to say it worked and am still trying to figure out how. It is a depressing day for me when a legend gets his teeth knocked out from that kick. | Ill be more than happy to tell you how. because in the game of striking the unexpected is what works. 95% of the time if you dont expect it to happen it will land. Randy did not expected it so it worked example The jab is one of my best weapons when i fight but after the first round people start expecting it so it lands a lost less. so Ill start dropping my lead hand or put my lead hand it some weird angle, then I start hitting them with the jab again, it starts working again because the don't expect the jab from that angle.
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05-01-2011, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dare777 Yeah not fight like Bruce Lee but maybe use his stances and some more lateral movement. Though to back track 45 years, Lee was trained in Jiu-jitsu There is actually an arm-bar scene in Chinese Connection. | yes, we all know how traditional japanese jiu jitsu compares to bjj...
Lee was a martial arts icon who mastered many different forms. Some useful, others not. We wont know how good he was.
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05-01-2011, 08:31 AM
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i was just happy he was able to get up after and give a interview with rogan and didnt take much damage after the kick.
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05-01-2011, 02:43 PM
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Are we really talking about Bruce Lee?
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05-01-2011, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rampage9712 since the cat is already out of the bag per say... what did you think about the ko... Like i said this isnt a feel good story, randy bit off more than he could chew. | Yea like a "mouf" full of toe nails.
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