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06-20-2006, 11:20 AM
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lets see Shamrock - Gracie III!
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06-20-2006, 11:45 AM
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There's currently no evidence that would lead me to believe Shamrock could take on Tito at this point in time.
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06-20-2006, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Axle13 There's currently no evidence that would lead me to believe Shamrock could take on Tito at this point in time. | Cote vs Tito, theres evidence.
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06-20-2006, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kimuras"R"Us No way did Ken eat Gracie alive in that rematch. It's pretty clear Ken was just playing for the draw the entire time. He knew he had no chance against Royce on the ground, and everytime it went there he took off... He's lucky he didn't get caught in anything after he tapped and then was going to keep fighting in the first match, Royce probably woud have tried to seriously hurt him. | At the end of that match, Shamrock walked out of there like it was nothing. Royce had to be dragged out of the ring by his buddies with his eye swollen shut. If anyone was in danger of being seriously hurt, it's Gracie. Gracie would never fight Ken again after that match. He's a record protector, and realized that, especially since his family stopped running the show around that time, his record wouldn't stand up if he was to fight Shamrock again.
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06-20-2006, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Daddy Duker At the end of that match, Shamrock walked out of there like it was nothing. Royce had to be dragged out of the ring by his buddies with his eye swollen shut. If anyone was in danger of being seriously hurt, it's Gracie. Gracie would never fight Ken again after that match. He's a record protector, and realized that, especially since his family stopped running the show around that time, his record wouldn't stand up if he was to fight Shamrock again. | All good points, I just feel as though Shamrock wasn't as aggresive as he could've been and I guess that's why I really didn't like him in that fight... I still think Gracie taps him out if they fought a third time. That could just be due to TUF though, the way Ken conducted himself really affected how I feel about him in general.
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06-20-2006, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Kimuras"R"Us All good points, I just feel as though Shamrock wasn't as aggresive as he could've been and I guess that's why I really didn't like him in that fight... I still think Gracie taps him out if they fought a third time. That could just be due to TUF though, the way Ken conducted himself really affected how I feel about him in general. | how did Ken conduct himself? I missed that fight.
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06-20-2006, 02:07 PM
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tito will win and dana will give him a title shot just to make chuck look sicker than he already does, by beating tito again
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06-20-2006, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Afro Samurai how did Ken conduct himself? I missed that fight. | There's just the way Ken carries himself sometimes that I don't like... It's like little body language things that some people wouldn't notice, I just think he's an asshole a lot of the time.
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06-20-2006, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kimuras"R"Us All good points, I just feel as though Shamrock wasn't as aggresive as he could've been and I guess that's why I really didn't like him in that fight... I still think Gracie taps him out if they fought a third time. That could just be due to TUF though, the way Ken conducted himself really affected how I feel about him in general. | I can agree with that. TUF 3 was not a good showing for Mr. Shamrock. As I discussed in an earlier post, however, I don't think it was a great showing for Tito either (though he probably came out looking better than Ken). I'm always a little weary of judging poeple based on reality television, as it can be edited to deliver whatever message the producers etc. want it to. It's certainly possible that now that Dana and Tito have mended fences, Dana (or some other higher up) wants to paint Tito as the "face" and Shamrock as the "heel", and aired only clips which would serve that end.
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06-20-2006, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Daddy Duker I can agree with that. TUF 3 was not a good showing for Mr. Shamrock. As I discussed in an earlier post, however, I don't think it was a great showing for Tito either (though he probably came out looking better than Ken). I'm always a little weary of judging poeple based on reality television, as it can be edited to deliver whatever message the producers etc. want it to. It's certainly possible that now that Dana and Tito have mended fences, Dana (or some other higher up) wants to paint Tito as the "face" and Shamrock as the "heel", and aired only clips which would serve that end. | Yeah that's a good point about editing and definitely needs to be taken into account when watching reality TV.
Bonus points for using wrestling terms (face, heel)
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