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[killerinstinct]

Who do you guys like for the Tito/shamrock fight?Shamrock's healthy this time and Tito isn't so i think it'll be closer than a one sided beat down ,but I still think Tito Ortiz will walk out the victor again.I hope Ken KOes him ,but that probably won't happen.

[Afro]

Honestly, I dont think Tito is as good as a fighter as he use to be.. and I dont think he was special then either, add in the fact that hes struggling to stay healthy.. i'd go with Ken, but still at Kens old age its a wonder if he can beat anyone but u never know until they fight.

[Matt Boone]

Gotta go with Ortiz in this one. Injuries or not, a one-sided beatdown the magnitude of which Shamrock received the first time, even healthy it can't make THAT much of a difference in a rematch. Not only because the physical dominance is proven, an injury healed isn't going to change the one-sidedness of the first fight, add in the mental factor - Shamrock obviously remembers the first fight probably the worst beating of his career. And you got yourself another Ortiz victory. I hope Shamrock wins though, that'd be awesome to see him get a big win on the way out.

[killerinstinct]

I don't think shamrock really does have that last fight in his mind he's been wanting a re-match for a long while now and tito has been ducking him-tito is fucking bitch who was litterally spanked by randy couture-man that was hillarious.

[NinjaShogunRua]

How was Tito ducking Shamrock? He murdered him the 1st fight(injury excuse or not). Shamrock has lost 4 of his last 5 fights, no one is ducking this guy. Shamrock just wants this fight so bad because it's like his title fight, since he'll never get another one.

[Submission Fighter]

You ask how Tito been ducking Ken? They were supposed to have their rematch the UFC ppv after the one they fought on but Tito said no. He kept putting down the fight then he left the UFC. Why you think he left, cuz his contract expired and the only way it was gonna be renewed was if Tito fought Ken again, he said no. He then joined TNA and realized he wasnt making as much as he did in UFC. So he came back and he is fighting Ken to get his contract renewed.

[NinjaShogunRua]

ummm he fought Randy Couture, Chuck Liddell, and Vitor Belfort after Shamrock. I wouldn't really call that ducking someone, more like taking more challenging fights. Again, why would he duck someone he murdered? What made Shamrock worthy of such a quick rematch besides his "legend" status? Even Patrick Cote was more of a challenge to Tito than Shamrock.

[Afro]

Originally Posted by NinjaShogunRua

How was Tito ducking Shamrock? He murdered him the 1st fight(injury excuse or not). Shamrock has lost 4 of his last 5 fights, no one is ducking this guy. Shamrock just wants this fight so bad because it's like his title fight, since he'll never get another one.

you answered the question in your post, if your Tito Ortiz you have to face reality and reality is hes not the same fighter that fought Shamrock back in 02.. hes half that fighter now, and still a better fighter then Ken.. fact is Ken CAN win this fight, now Tito wants to maintain his rep, believes he can be champ again... what would it look like for him to lose to a 43 year old Ken Shamrock who lost 4 out of his last 5 fights? it would kill Tito big time..

[kdude87]

it will end alot worse than the first of that im sure....their blood is at boiling point.....shamrock just doesn't understand that its time to hang it up....he couldn't even hang with sakuraba who doesn't even have ko power and isn't anywhere near shamrock's weight and physical mass.

[Afro]

Originally Posted by kdude87

it will end alot worse than the first of that im sure....their blood is at boiling point.....shamrock just doesn't understand that its time to hang it up....he couldn't even hang with sakuraba who doesn't even have ko power and isn't anywhere near shamrock's weight and physical mass.

the Sakuraba was a quick stoppage, no if ands or buts about that! theres no he couldnt even hang with Sakuraba cuz all Sakuraba did was love tap him and the Ref said thats enough!

and I dont get what ur sayin Bro, Sakuraba is a good fighter theres no shame in losing to him either way and Why does Shamrock have to hang em up? this isnt football where hes holdin back the younger players from growing, its fighting.. if Shamrock wants to fight until hes 60 and lose every single match hes welcome to do so!

Ive always respected that one thing about Shamrock, he fights.. he doesnt think about losing he just fights, who else would get beat to hell by Tito then ask for a rematch the next day? guy doesnt care he just wants to fight, so let him fight till he feels hes ready to quit I think hes earned that right.