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05-31-2011, 05:28 AM
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that is my fave by far! WHATS WRONG WIT YOOO GRILL GIRRRLL?!
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05-31-2011, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rampage9712 wtf are you talking about. Do you like always disagreeing with me or going against the grain? It is clearly a joke, she is laughing and going along with it. Its the furthest thing from sexual harassment. wtf if it was in the 40's there would be a mob trying to get him for... I wouldnt do anything like that, nor should anybody else. He just has the personality where he can get away with it. I always thought if somebody else did it the reporters would be uncomfortable, but again its rampage.
Im not playing the psychic role that you like to play. I USED MY EYES AND WATCHED IT. | You've got to be kidding me... If you're being serious, you're a complete clown.
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05-31-2011, 06:23 AM
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I have to disagree with Rampage's behavior. For one, the reporters could be married, he has no business doing that.
Yet another point is that if any girl ever accuses Rampage of rape... Bye bye! With this history to show the jury, he will be done.
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05-31-2011, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Y2JUBAE I have to disagree with Rampage's behavior. For one, the reporters could be married, he has no business doing that.
Yet another point is that if any girl ever accuses Rampage of rape... Bye bye! With this history to show the jury, he will be done. | not to mention his other infractions |
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05-31-2011, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by goodtimes It's a reporters job to pretend everything is fine and go along with shit. It's Rampage's job as a professional athlete to be a little more professional while doing these interviews. That's not how a normal person acts, its not acceptable in any other major sport. I like Rampage, but I think he's a hardcore misogynist. Lots of women learn to joke of sexual harassment, I see it all the time. Doesn't mean it's OK. | Exactly. Quote:
Originally Posted by YukonJordan If she felt uncomfortable she needed to say so right when it happened. Casually playing it off does more harm than good. | You're asking someone to make a split-second decision, while she's actively in an uncomfortable situation, about something that she's never experienced before.
Then, factor in two additional concerns: Zuffa is incredibly heavy-handed and reactionary with media access. It's like finding the holy grail to actually get credentialed and score a key interview for any up-and-coming reporter, never mind a woman. Women in sports media are generally viewed somewhere between mindless eye-candy and a nuisance, they have to work twice as hard to get half the credibility. Then, consider Zuffa's past reaction to women in the industry who do anything at all to discredit one of their fighters or staff: dana's persistent vitriolic attacks on Loretta Hunt come immediately to mind, followed up immediately by the unprecedented firings of Logan Stanton and Natasha Wicks. Stanton and Wicks didn't even do anything as extreme as kneeing a fighter in the balls, they simply answered a question about whether they thought Koschek was faking an eye-poke. They didn't offer unsolicited opinion, they were asked a direct question, which they answered truthfully [and in accordance with accepted general public opinion at the time] and without any warning, they were unemployed less than 24 hours later.
Neither of those things seem directly connected to this situation, and are probably off the radar for the bulk of male fans, but they represent a low-grade misogynist perspective from the most powerful org in the industry, and I'm pretty confident the reporter was well aware of both situations. I'm not saying they consciously impacted any of her decision-making, but I wouldn't rule it out entirely.
Actually, I think the reporter is in a no-win situation. Even if she's re-credentialed for future events, I don't expect her to get great interviews, and there are going to be tons of ignorant fans who think she is just wrong for bringing it up because it was just rampage being rampage.
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05-31-2011, 07:39 AM
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Inappropriate bullshit that has nothing to do with Mixed Martial Arts or even celebrity in general and Rampage should know better. He'll probably blame the whole thing on fasting and energy drinks, but is just completely unacceptable behaviour.
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05-31-2011, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement Oh I didn't realize it was that easy. Thank god I'm in college and have taken classes on sexual assault and sexual harassment and know better. | Not to take it off topic, but what are you taking in school Sakara? PM me if you dont want to say on the forum. I got a degree in Criminology and from a few of your comments in the past it sounds like you might be on a similar path?
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05-31-2011, 08:57 AM
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MMAfighting makes a good point on the issue. Quote:
The interview you see here with the UFC's Quinton "Rampage" Jackson and reporter Karyn Bryant from MMAHeat.com is an embarrassing exchange between a professional athlete and a credentialed member of the media -- exactly the kind of thing the UFC needs to avoid if it wants to be taken seriously as a mainstream sport.
The interview starts with Bryant asking Jackson about his UFC 130 victory over Matt Hamill. And then it turns into something very different than the typical post-fight interview -- and very different from anything even approaching an appropriate exchange between a journalist and a subject.
Here's the transcript of the key portion:
Jackson: "I be loving me some black women. Are you black?"
Bryant: "Part, yeah."
Jackson: "I love all parts of you, even the black part. What other part are you?"
Bryant: "I'm Jamaican, black and white."
Jackson: "She's Jamaican me horny."
Bryant: (laughs) "I know you got to get to your party. Thank you, congratulations."
Jackson: "She's hot. That's why I gave her the interview -- she's hot."
Bryant: "Thank you, Rampage."
Jackson: "I want to motorboat. On camera."
With that, Jackson proceeded to stick his face in Bryant's cleavage and pretend to "motorboat" her. To call that crossing the line would be incorrect: This behavior is so far beyond the line that Jackson wouldn't have been able to see the line.
Bryant wrote on Twitter that she thought the incident was funny, but Bryant being OK with her encounter with Jackson doesn't make it acceptable. Jackson and Bryant are two people in their workplaces. At your office, would it be OK if two people behaved the way Jackson and Bryant did in this interview?
Actions like this contribute to an atmosphere that can make other reporters feel uncomfortable, and it's particularly troubling that Jackson would say, "That's why I gave her the interview -- she's hot," suggesting that female reporters who are credentialed to UFC events will be granted access based on whether UFC fighters find them attractive.
| After UFC 130, Rampage Jackson Had an Embarrassing Interview
Looks to me like Karyn made a couple attempts to professionally end the interview right when Quinten turned into Rampage.
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05-31-2011, 12:24 PM
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If Rampage was doing this to Ariel Helwani or any other male reporter I HIGHLY doubt that anybody here would be complaining about it at all. Rampage should not be behaving like this, period, however, I also really feel like its the reporters responsibility to tell him to stop or file a formal complaint with zuffa afterwards if it actually bothered them. She has been in the industry over 20 years now, I think she knows how to handel herself and properly deal with a situation when she feels wronged. Women are not helpless creatures.
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05-31-2011, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CtGreat If Rampage was doing this to Ariel Helwani or any other guy reporter I HIGHLY doubt that anybody here would be complaining about it at all. Rampage should not be behaving like this, period, however, I also really feel like its the reporters responsibility to tell him to stop or file a formal complaint with zuffa afterwards if it actually bothered them. | This is an interesting comparison. He did kind of threat Helwani, but in 'Rampage' fashion and no one really thought anything of it. If it's ok for him to pick on nerds then where do you draw the line on what's ok for him to do just because he's a gimmick.
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