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[Afro]

Originally Posted by tj31atr

What? Why can't they cover MMA. They could give the results on Sportscenter if they chose to. It does not matter if they have a contract with K-1. They have a contract with the NFL but still give CFL results.

because there contract with the NFL doesnt specificly say: Dont cover any other MMA organization

maybe they could show results on the ticker, but they cant fully cover MMA

plus, they cant educated alllll of there writers, and analyst to MMA nor does ESPN have a large interest in MMA cuz its martial arts, not there brand of sport.

[AudieMurphy1]

Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

HEY ASS! Tony K is the man! do you want to get Sudo'd?

haha....you are countered by my armbar

[DW]

Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

because there contract with the NFL doesnt specificly say: Dont cover any other MMA organization

maybe they could show results on the ticker, but they cant fully cover MMA

plus, they cant educated alllll of there writers, and analyst to MMA nor does ESPN have a large interest in MMA cuz its martial arts, not there brand of sport.

maybe they should do a "inside the ufc" type show once a week but cover all mma instead of just ufc. like they do for horseracing and shit

[Afro]

Originally Posted by theDonTurtle

maybe they should do a "inside the ufc" type show once a week but cover all mma instead of just ufc. like they do for horseracing and shit

again they would have to find professionals that know MMA, the UFC wont hire a fuckin Joe Rogan to do there shows.. they want guys that know the sport, and are professional about it

but damn I would love to see Inside the UFC with Bas Rutten and Randy Couture, but I still think it would fuck with there contract with K1.

[DW]

Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

again they would have to find professionals that know MMA, the UFC wont hire a fuckin Joe Rogan to do there shows.. they want guys that know the sport, and are professional about it

but damn I would love to see Inside the UFC with Bas Rutten and Randy Couture, but I still think it would fuck with there contract with K1.

agreed, bas and randy would be great together to host a show

[tj31atr]

Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

because there contract with the NFL doesnt specificly say: Dont cover any other MMA organization

maybe they could show results on the ticker, but they cant fully cover MMA

plus, they cant educated alllll of there writers, and analyst to MMA nor does ESPN have a large interest in MMA cuz its martial arts, not there brand of sport.

You have got to be kidding, please tell me you are kidding!! If thats the case how could they get away with having Dana, GSP and Matt Hughes on the air for interviews, to announce the fight. As far as educating allllll the writers, do you really think half the writers have a clue about anything they write. They don't write analysis that is left for the 'experts' all the writers do is write the highlights, and generally speaking that is done by whoever will be announcing said highlight. So that being said, basically you are saying that say, Melinda Cohn or Stuart Scott are experts in: Boxing, NASCAR, IRL, CART, NFL, College Football....well you get the point. This is simply not the case. They have 'experts' to do analysis, like Peter Gammons for baseball. So they could easily hire someone like Bas Rutten or Stephen Q, to break things down if they chose to.

Unfortunately, I think you pretty much dead on with the fact that it's not there brand of sport. Although for the life of me I can't figure what justification they would use. To brutal, hmmm no, they show boxing on a regular basis.

[Afro]

Originally Posted by tj31atr

You have got to be kidding, please tell me you are kidding!! If thats the case how could they get away with having Dana, GSP and Matt Hughes on the air for interviews, to announce the fight. As far as educating allllll the writers, do you really think half the writers have a clue about anything they write. They don't write analysis that is left for the 'experts' all the writers do is write the highlights, and generally speaking that is done by whoever will be announcing said highlight. So that being said, basically you are saying that say, Melinda Cohn or Stuart Scott are experts in: Boxing, NASCAR, IRL, CART, NFL, College Football....well you get the point. This is simply not the case. They have 'experts' to do analysis, like Peter Gammons for baseball. So they could easily hire someone like Bas Rutten or Stephen Q, to break things down if they chose to.

Unfortunately, I think you pretty much dead on with the fact that it's not there brand of sport. Although for the life of me I can't figure what justification they would use. To brutal, hmmm no, they show boxing on a regular basis.

you do realise that the UFC has only been on one show and thats Quite Frankly? I think Cold Pizza once.. but they have only been on Quite Frankly

and yes I do believe that the "SPORTS WRITERS" that work for ESPN have a clue abotu everything they write, its there job to.

Stuart Scott is not a sports writer, he is an Anchorman.. theres a difference

im talking about Tony Reialli, Tony K, Mike Wilbon, Woody Paige, Michael Smith, Skip Bayless.. the guys that actually cover all the sports and talk about them, that run the most watched shows on ESPN.. these guys arent into MMA.

[tj31atr]

Originally Posted by Afro Samurai

you do realise that the UFC has only been on one show and thats Quite Frankly? I think Cold Pizza once.. but they have only been on Quite Frankly

and yes I do believe that the "SPORTS WRITERS" that work for ESPN have a clue abotu everything they write, its there job to.

Stuart Scott is not a sports writer, he is an Anchorman.. theres a difference

im talking about Tony Reialli, Tony K, Mike Wilbon, Woody Paige, Michael Smith, Skip Bayless.. the guys that actually cover all the sports and talk about them, that run the most watched shows on ESPN.. these guys arent into MMA.

OK, I was thinking more along the lines of Sportcenter then the guys you mention, so fair enough. However, have you ever listened to half the guys you mention, they are very knowledgeable in one or two sports and complete idiots in everything else. Yet they are asked to comment about all sports, which is not fair to them. So I hope we are in some agreement on that.

As far as what they have been on, they have been on more then quite frankly, they were on Sportscenter, and on the radio shows of Colin Cowherd and Dan Patrick, which whilke it is not TV, still has a huge audience, in fact I would bet that the ratings for Dan Patrick is equal to if not higher than quite frankly, because alot of people can listen while at work.

I'm done on this topic, but thanks for the discussion Afro, at least we were both able to state our opinions, good posts.

[Beatts35]

Originally Posted by Clint

They have had some results and interviews on ESPN before but not very much. I think it mostly has to do with perception still. ESPN is owned by Disney so they seem to avoid controversy when possible.

I think it really comes down to the whole disney thing too. the k1 contract would not stop them from reporting on results. it would be interesting to see espn put heros on, but they wouldn't do something great like that.

[Beatts35]

and a funny note, espn 2 used to carry "k1 sports jujistu" which was basicaly mma. no closed fist strikes but head and body kicks. you can find some it it online, there is a matt serra fight on dailymotion from k1 sports jj.